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Tube bender question

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#1 · (Edited)
So i have decided I want to start fabricating my own bumpers/fenders/cage etc. for the jeep. My mothers boyfriend is a briggs and stratton plant manager up in NY and he is getting me a millermatic 180 cause he can get them really cheap.

The next big thing on my list is a tube bender. What is a good bender to get? Do i need something like the JD2 http://www.vansantent.com/model_3_bender.htm

or can I get by with something else?

I would like to get the jd2, but its $430 and the dies are around $200+ per.

Will something like http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200365072_200365072
or
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200381834_200381834
work for what I am going to do? I have heard that some of the cheaper benders will crimp the tube or create really weak points in the tube and I don't want that since I am going to be building a cage.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am new to fabricating, I just want o learn so that I can do everything on my jeep myself.
Thanks.
 
#2 ·
hi I'm a steel fabricator(rails,stringer,steel stainless alluminum)and I use a pipe bender everyday a big,motherf...one,now if you wanna go with that one(by hand)is fine for thin wall pipes(0.060 to 0.090)but if you planning to bent inch 1/4,inch 1/2,2in 0.120wall;0.250(scq 40,scq80)you better off with an hydraulic one,unless your name is superman.
 
#7 ·
Here you want the best but not have to pay outa your ass for it. I've used this bender for years..And it can be upgraded to hydraulic as you get more money.

Many different levels...

http://www.jd2.com/shop/
 
#9 ·
Back at Wyotech school when I was fabricating there, we made look alikes to this brand. Worked great. I used these in the shop to create bumpers and side bars, and it worked flawlessly. Simple to use, has that ratchet set up so you don't have to be a Neanderthal to work it.
 
#10 ·
On a side note, I wouldn't recommend building a cage if you have no experience in it. Bumpers and rails are fine, but your life may depend on your cage. Go with a kit like the RROR or Poly, or find an experienced cage builder to help you.

Chris
 
#11 ·
I was originally looking at the poly p kit but I think I might end up going with a custom cage. My cousin has his own 4x4 and racing shop and builds and races sprints cars for fun so I am planning on getting him to help me design the cage and make some cad models and then help me fabricate. The cage will probably be the last thing I do so I can have had plenty of practice fabricating before I dive into that.
 
#12 ·
Cool, I've done two cages now with Packard and I still wouldn't try to do one without his design. I think I'm just going to go with the Poly or RROR. I don't wheel it like the LJ, so I don't need a full out custom cage.
 
#13 ·
I have the JD2 model 3 and love it. I've been using it for about 5 years now and totally got my moneys worth. For the longest time i had only 1 set of dies and it suited me pretty well.

Avoid the poop pipe benders. They werent designed to build cages. Most ive seen usually leaves a nice crease indentation in the middle of the bend making it weaker.
 
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#26 ·
x2

You get what you pay for.
 
#21 ·
I was able to get a Brand new miller 211 for 598.00 so I think I am going to end up getting the jd2 model 32. The next question is what software I should get to go with it. I am looking at the bend tech ez, but I am wondering whether or not I should step it up to the Bend tech ez 3D. I am planning on making my own tube fenders, modifying front bumper with a stinger and grill guard, and fabbing up my own roll cage that is going to be frame mounted so the 3D design aspect may come in handy. What do you all think?

Also do you all think 1 3/4 in die set will be a good overall tube for my projects? Should I go with .120 or 1/4 in wall dom for the cage?
 
#27 ·
Just picked this up off Craigslist from a good oh boy. He said it's a Jd2 model 3. From what I can tell it is, but there are no markings that I have found yet. It's really dirty and my 18 month old makes it hard for me to get out there and clean it up. Pluse the fact I'm hiding it from the warden. Haha
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#28 ·
There was a great write up doing a side by side comparison of the JD2, Pro Tools, and JMR. The JMR had more material thickness at the critical pin locations and it was the only one that usedbronze bushings at the main pin. This prevents wear and allows the pin to be removed without the arms separating. Another think to note, JMR and Pro Tools dieswill interchange where JD2 only works on their bender. And the dies for the JD2 won't work on the JD32 when you upgrade...Just my. 02