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So i have decided I want to start fabricating my own bumpers/fenders/cage etc. for the jeep. My mothers boyfriend is a briggs and stratton plant manager up in NY and he is getting me a millermatic 180 cause he can get them really cheap.

The next big thing on my list is a tube bender. What is a good bender to get? Do i need something like the JD2 http://www.vansantent.com/model_3_bender.htm

or can I get by with something else?

I would like to get the jd2, but its $430 and the dies are around $200+ per.

Will something like http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200365072_200365072
or
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200381834_200381834
work for what I am going to do? I have heard that some of the cheaper benders will crimp the tube or create really weak points in the tube and I don't want that since I am going to be building a cage.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am new to fabricating, I just want o learn so that I can do everything on my jeep myself.
Thanks.
 
hi I'm a steel fabricator(rails,stringer,steel stainless alluminum)and I use a pipe bender everyday a big,motherf...one,now if you wanna go with that one(by hand)is fine for thin wall pipes(0.060 to 0.090)but if you planning to bent inch 1/4,inch 1/2,2in 0.120wall;0.250(scq 40,scq80)you better off with an hydraulic one,unless your name is superman.
 
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i am thinking about getting the model 32 from jd squared. Anyone have any experience with this? Anyone use any other tube bender that they think works just as good and costs a little bit less. I figured that it is going to be around 7-800 for model 32 and a 1 3/4 die set.
 
Here you want the best but not have to pay outa your ass for it. I've used this bender for years..And it can be upgraded to hydraulic as you get more money.

Many different levels...

http://www.jd2.com/shop/
 
Back at Wyotech school when I was fabricating there, we made look alikes to this brand. Worked great. I used these in the shop to create bumpers and side bars, and it worked flawlessly. Simple to use, has that ratchet set up so you don't have to be a Neanderthal to work it.
 
On a side note, I wouldn't recommend building a cage if you have no experience in it. Bumpers and rails are fine, but your life may depend on your cage. Go with a kit like the RROR or Poly, or find an experienced cage builder to help you.

Chris
 
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I was originally looking at the poly p kit but I think I might end up going with a custom cage. My cousin has his own 4x4 and racing shop and builds and races sprints cars for fun so I am planning on getting him to help me design the cage and make some cad models and then help me fabricate. The cage will probably be the last thing I do so I can have had plenty of practice fabricating before I dive into that.
 
I was originally looking at the poly p kit but I think I might end up going with a custom cage. My cousin has his own 4x4 and racing shop and builds and races sprints cars for fun so I am planning on getting him to help me design the cage and make some cad models and then help me fabricate. The cage will probably be the last thing I do so I can have had plenty of practice fabricating before I dive into that.
Cool, I've done two cages now with Packard and I still wouldn't try to do one without his design. I think I'm just going to go with the Poly or RROR. I don't wheel it like the LJ, so I don't need a full out custom cage.
 
I have the JD2 model 3 and love it. I've been using it for about 5 years now and totally got my moneys worth. For the longest time i had only 1 set of dies and it suited me pretty well.

Avoid the poop pipe benders. They werent designed to build cages. Most ive seen usually leaves a nice crease indentation in the middle of the bend making it weaker.
 
The JD2 and Pro-Tools tube benders are pretty much the entry level for getting a good bender. Those Northern Tool and Harbor Freight Benders are tube kinkers from what I have read. When I get a bender I plan on going with the Baileigh RDB-050. You get what you pay for in tube benders.
 
Those northern tool ones you posted are pipe benders, not tube benders. They'll bend it, but they'll look like total poo.

Something like the JD2 is what you need. Tube bending dies aren't cheap, there's no way getting round that. Be glad you aren't buying our dies at $1000+ a pop.
 


This is a JMR, the mechanical version.
We use this style bender on a daily basis. Works very well.



Although we are using the Hydraulic version, which the mechanical version can be upgraded to.

 
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