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I just bought my rear,(I already braced/changed fronts) T.B. replacement bolts today. After picking up my replacement drivers side exhaust manifold! (How many others have cracked???), Seems like all of them? Shouldn't some of these things be recalled?
 
so i've had death wobble issues at least two or three separate times and usually just too broke to fix it so i just torque the shit out of everything and slap a new stabilizer on till it comes back... i know i know terrible idea but i'm a broke college student that needs to get around town. anyways i've finally saved the funds and now have the time over xmas break to really take care of this and as i've had it so many times i want to address the issue as wholly as possible so this is what my plan is and i'm hoping you can verify if its good or not. thanks!

poly:
- steering (tie rod and drag link)
- ball joints
- track bar relocation bracket
- F9 hardware kit

teraflex:
- complete flex arms and track bar
- already have front LCA and TB
 
Discussion starter · #89 ·
so i've had death wobble issues at least two or three separate times and usually just too broke to fix it so i just torque the shit out of everything and slap a new stabilizer on till it comes back... i know i know terrible idea but i'm a broke college student that needs to get around town. anyways i've finally saved the funds and now have the time over xmas break to really take care of this and as i've had it so many times i want to address the issue as wholly as possible so this is what my plan is and i'm hoping you can verify if its good or not. thanks!

poly:
- steering (tie rod and drag link)
- ball joints
- track bar relocation bracket
- F9 hardware kit

teraflex:
- complete flex arms and track bar
- already have front LCA and TB
You may not need those things.

Why not go through the inspcection checklist to diagnose the source(s) of the DW and just fix those things.?
 
i did go through the check list but i was just wondering in general as a fix all solution if that would work. like a nuclear bomb on death wobble :devil:

also, correct me if i'm wrong but if i fix any and all causes of full on death wobble, would tires be able to cause any sort of serious wobble? i ask because i've never been able to get my mtr/k satisfactorily balanced and after finally fixing the causes of death wobble i don't want my tires to ruin it all for me. so is this a viable concern or should i be good to go even with my sh!tty tires?
 
Discussion starter · #91 ·
i did go through the check list but i was just wondering in general as a fix all solution if that would work. like a nuclear bomb on death wobble :devil:

also, correct me if i'm wrong but if i fix any and all causes of full on death wobble, would tires be able to cause any sort of serious wobble? i ask because i've never been able to get my mtr/k satisfactorily balanced and after finally fixing the causes of death wobble i don't want my tires to ruin it all for me. so is this a viable concern or should i be good to go even with my sh!tty tires?
Well, while you are switching everything out, you should be able to re-do the inspection checklist--including checking bracket bolt holes for ovaling.

I was just suggesting that you may not need to buy all that stuff and that you may be able to allocate funds torwards other upgrades or repairs. You don't really need the rear control arms with a 2.5" rear lift.

For example, what if your steering box is bad?

Or, what if your problems are wallowed out trackbar bracket bolt holes? The new bolts alone will not fix this.

If you still have 2.5" front springs and 1.75" coil spacers, for a total 4.25" front lift, you want a drag link flip kit and front extended bumpstops that are at least 3" long. So, that fits your list well.

However, if your DW has continued over the last year, you may have damaged more components--i.e. the front upper axle side control arm bushings.
 
This is probably the best thread on this subject that I have ever came across! Even on the other forum (JKF) which sucks!!! opps did I write that on here!!! :)
 
Discussion starter · #93 ·
This is probably the best thread on this subject that I have ever came across! Even on the other forum (JKF) which sucks!!! opps did I write that on here!!! :)
Thanks. Just trying to help everyone out. I have it on 4 forums and should probably add it to a couple more.


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Well, while you are switching everything out, you should be able to re-do the inspection checklist--including checking bracket bolt holes for ovaling.

I was just suggesting that you may not need to buy all that stuff and that you may be able to allocate funds torwards other upgrades or repairs. You don't really need the rear control arms with a 2.5" rear lift.

For example, what if your steering box is bad?

Or, what if your problems are wallowed out trackbar bracket bolt holes? The new bolts alone will not fix this.

If you still have 2.5" front springs and 1.75" coil spacers, for a total 4.25" front lift, you want a drag link flip kit and front extended bumpstops that are at least 3" long. So, that fits your list well.

However, if your DW has continued over the last year, you may have damaged more components--i.e. the front upper axle side control arm bushings.
i understand what you're saying but my question was more specifically, will i need new tires as well to rid myself of this wobble or will fixing everything else take care of that adequately?
 
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i understand what you're saying but my question was more specifically, will i need new tires as well to rid myself of this wobble or will fixing everything else take care of that adequately?
You need to borrow tires/wheels from a friend in order to really determine if it is your tires/wheels.

Truthfully, if you really want to get rid of it, I would recommend you pull out the coil spacers and just run the 2.5" lift, then fix the sources of your wobbles/shimmies. Piecing together a 4.25" short arm lift has left you with many issues going on at once.

Especially since you are adding PSC flares, a 2.5" lift will look much better with 35s than a 4.25" lift.
 
Figured I'd share this here...

After years of dealing with steering issues I finally got my JK to drive better then stock!!!

I replaced all my steering components and my knuckles. I balanced my tires 10X. I did everything!!! And I still had bad bump steer, a wobble at 50-55 mph and a wobble at 70+ mph.

I had the Teraflex trackbar drop bracket on the JK since I first bought it. Recently I welded the bracket on the kit to make sure it doesn't shake. Sill didn't help.

A few days ago I ditched the TF bracket and installed a Synergy passenger side track bar mount that raised the trackbar. ALL my issues went away. The JK drives better then my stock Grand Cherokee!!

This is the Synergy bracket...

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This is my setup before the Synergy Bracket. Observe the positioning of the trackbar and drag link.

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This is how it is now. Notice that the drag link and trackbar are at the same angle and same height from ground. I took off the TF drop bracket and put the driver side trackbar into the stock position.

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I never thought this would solve my issues.... but it did!
 
DW

I have or had the death wobble on my 2011 jk (10,00 miles) after i put the 2.5 inch leveling kit on it. I found slop in the pan hard bar and was able to fit a 5/8 bolt in it at one end. Anyhow, if you do the 2.5 lift and nothing else you shouldnt have changed the caster by more than a degree or so, when I get my 33's will this one degree be acceptable or do I really need to get the adjusting bolts?
 
Discussion starter · #99 ·
You should be fine with stock control arms and a 2.5" lift.

If you want to improve handling, you would buy adjustable front lower control arms. Avoid cambolts if at all possible.


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