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Yeah September is it. I have been so busy since getting back from Rubicon that I have only breifly discussed the USA/Canada trip to Moab. This of course assumes you still want to hang with the Cans. I know they were a little brash and hard to deal with at times but then again apparently I am too when in a cancer causing atmosphere.

At this point we are looking at September 14th. This allows labor day festivities time to settle and also the weather to cool down a bit but not too much.

At this time I am thinking of trailering up. Not sure I can do another Jeep road trip unless the seating/comfort levels are brought way up. Gettin a little too old for it I guess.

So I'm in, Scott our other buddy is in and he has a couple friends from Colorado that will meet us too. The Cans of course and whoever else from here.

Our plan to date is to rent a big ass house (assuming we can do that affordably, if not then two again) then just do all day runs from there. Not planning on doing any camping at this time but will probably bring gear just in case.

How does that sound to you guys

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Sounds perfect ol wise one. And yes Rich was stating last night it wouldn't be an epic trip without the Canadians. And maybe we can find a water hole with just enough water to throw your line in. Haha:beer:

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Would a very mild lift and 33's make it through Moab? I'm debating on scaling my lift/tire upgrades back a bit. Was going to do 35's and rock krawler 2.5 max travel, but thinking those plans are too ambitious right out of the gate. Kicking around the idea of going with Rubi take off springs/shocks with 33 Duratracs on 15.
 

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Would a very mild lift and 33's make it through Moab? I'm debating on scaling my lift/tire upgrades back a bit. Was going to do 35's and rock krawler 2.5 max travel, but thinking those plans are too ambitious right out of the gate. Kicking around the idea of going with Rubi take off springs/shocks with 33 Duratracs on 15.
The Rubi springs/shocks will give you a pretty kick ass lift for way cheap. Fact is you could prolly run 35 with a little trimming and that might do you for a long while. Duratracs, not for me but several guys have them. I'd say they are a little weak in the sidewall and based on the way your gonna wheel when your a little more capable I might suggest something a little tougher. I realize they have been getting good mileage out of the treads and all but if your gonna wheel hard when your out there I'd look at something else. If you go with 15's then you have a shit ton of options in a C rated tire which is what you really should go with.

As far as Moab is concerned, you'd probably fair pretty well with that sort of setup. I am going to say that at least one locker is required for you to go. When we go that far to wheel it really makes sense to be totally prepared and fully capable. Many of the guys on these trails won't spend any time with you if your not locked up. There's a rear locker on one of the threads right now for $350.00 which is a killer price. You can get a lunchbox type locker for cheap in the front and be very capable out there. You can dump the front locker when you get back if you need the cash or you can leave it in if it is working good enough for you on the street. Just a thought. I'd look for the thread with the locker on it though cause that's a fucking steal if it works.
 

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Here we go again! I gotta really work on Lisa this time. I've been promising her a trip to New York and this will deffinatly cut into that budget! So I better get started now!
 

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Here we go again! I gotta really work on Lisa this time. I've been promising here a trip to New York and this will deffinatly cut into that budget! So I better get started now!
New York? I guess I'm confused... There's no wheeling in NY. Lisa must be confused also, ha!


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I'm with Murray on this one... I know ken wanted to do this trip camping, but I enjoyed going out for day trips and coming back to the house at night. However, if there were a group that wanted to camp, I'm sure that would be an option as well.

I've only been once, but when we went, we rented two houses in a neighborhood near many of the trails. There's a neighborhood of cookie cutter homes that are largely rented for outdoor enthusiasts who visit the area. I imagine that we'd have to rent at least two, and maybe three of them, but if we plan it correctly then we could get two or three next door to each other. That worked out well for us. No driving or traveling at all between houses, just stumbling across the driveways and front yards. It also gives us garaged areas to work on breaks (read no more field welding or working on super grateful auburn jeep inductees' jeeps).

I know it's taboo, but some of the earlier videos from the Reich's Moab videos were filmed at these places as well if you're looking to see what this may be like. I know he's got a lot of "friends" on this forum, but he did do Moab right IMO.

One other thing to think about is potentially inviting/letting some of the local shops know we'll be around. We met Joe from TF and wheeled with him for a day. Moab is much more accessible than Rubicon and many of out favorite manufacturers are in the area, looking to wheel, and eager to meet some customers. It's also fun to wheel with some of these shop builds that we only get to see on the forum (ie rebels victim)

And lastly, this trip has the potential to be MASSIVE compared to the Rubicon trip. It lends itself well to the weekend warrior who may not be interested in a weeklong camping extravaganza (like rubi) as well as the tried and true travelers like the Canucks, eh.

Lastly, again, Moab has trails for all skill levels and determine what we want to wheel will be crucial. As ken and I have discussed, you really can't wheel all it has to offer unless you spend a solid 2 weeks. This means that we won't hit everything and must pick where we want to be on the difficulty/popularity scale.


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Would a very mild lift and 33's make it through Moab? I'm debating on scaling my lift/tire upgrades back a bit. Was going to do 35's and rock krawler 2.5 max travel, but thinking those plans are too ambitious right out of the gate. Kicking around the idea of going with Rubi take off springs/shocks with 33 Duratracs on 15.
Just get 35's. You will be sorry if you get 33's. you can do it inexpensively. It was actually cheaper for me to buy 15" wheels and tires than just the 17" tires. 35x15x12.50 km2s are just over 200 each. And If you buy wheels, that takes care of your backspacing issues too. I ran the RC budget boost for a couple of years with no problem. It's like $130 shipped. Then as I saved money I just bought springs. First in the front, then in the rear a few months later. A lot of the guys will tell you that the high dollar kits are the way to go and worth the money, and while they may be right, I survived the Rubicon on a very inexpensive rig.
 

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Here we go again! I gotta really work on Lisa this time. I've been promising here a trip to New York and this will deffinatly cut into that budget! So I better get started now!
Take her to the one in Vegas next weekend. You never specified which one did you? You could probably do that in one tank of gas in her car.
 

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Ok fellas I just shot off an email to Emma (Ayton) about the thread and tentative dates. Let the good times roll.
Thanks for telling Emma to tell me about this thread :)

Emma and I are in... and I'm working on a few other Canucks. Emma and my preference is to rent a house and do day trips out to the trails - the desert heat is a bit too much for our frosty Canadian arses.

Should be a good time EH?
 

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Well that wasnt as hard as I thought! Looks like we're in!!!!:bounce::thankyou:
 

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I am definately in if there is space, if not I will camp in the front yard!!!
 
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