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Finally got around to taking of picture of the Jeep outside. The inch or so of stretch isn't really very noticeable, but it didn't really require any other modification. I'd recommend it if you already have adjustable arms.

Here is an approximation of the change (Line 1 Before, Line 2 After)



 

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Finally got around to modifying the Shrockworks Sliders and welding them on. This is the first free mod I think I have ever done

Busted beat up shrocks



Clean up rock scrapes and cut lower mounts off



Freshen up with some new paint. Good as new!
Also notice parts piling up in the corner. Streeeettchhhhh :bounce:


Clean frame up


Weld it up!


It used to bolt up in three spots on each mount. I wonder what is stonger :thefinger:
 

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So, I've knocked the license plate off multiple times. After the first time, it was never real tight again....



I was meaning to buy something, but I had some free time today so figured something out. It's pretty sturdy. Made out of some 3/16 and 1/8 flat stock I had sitting in my garage.










 

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I have been moving forward a little bit with the stress progress... at least with the plan and parts accumulation.

-I purchased the Synergy 8" Stretch kit. I just returned the coilover towers..
-I found a smoking deal on Pirate for some brand new 14" King Coilovers
200/250 springs and valved for a V8 YJ. I think they will work well. Hopefully they should get here next week sometime. :bounce:

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-I liked the look of the genright rear coilover mounts but they are pretty spendy at $450+shipping. I found a guy on a local forum that does custom cutting and bending for a very reasonable price. I gave him some rough dimensions of what I wanted last week and I'm going to go pick these up on Sunday

 

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This is the design the guy sent me. I have a copy in a word document if anybody wants it (apparently they can be sent that way?)



Dimensions:
.25 Thick
16" Tall
12" wide at the base
6" wide at the top
3" deep at the top
6" deep at the base
1" holes to allow a socket to go through
Shock tabs mount inside towers

These should be plenty tall.. I am not exactly sure how I am going to mount them but have some ideas and inspirations. Plenty of room to trim down. But it is going to be along these lines.

http://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62561&page=3

Desert Dog's Stretch is very nice. I would have liked to do a custom 3-link like him, but at this point my Rubi is my only vehicle so I don't want excessive down time. I am hoping that I can get all of the parts together (with the exception of maybe the driveshaft) and then bang then this out over a weekend with some contingency vacation days planned in the week to follow if things don't go as smoothly as hoped :th_pray:
 

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Nice looking build! :beer: This is going to be sweet!

I ran for a week and a half after my rear stretch with only the front driveshaft. Bummer, but liveable.
These things suck as a front wheel drive, and during ice season you might make the news, but in dry weather it's OK.

2 days . . . possible, but don't be surprised if you use one or 2 of your buffer days.
Just do a full inventory of parts and mods before you take it beyond the point of no return (the cuts you have to go poop before).

You're going coilovers, so that saves you better than half a day (lazy ass) . . . so what's left:
Track bar mounts, control arms plus mounts, bump stops, exhaust, locker wiring, wheel speed sensor wiring, shock mounts, axle breather, and brake lines / hoses.

I think that's all so, on second thought, you suck if you don't get it done in 2 days. :thefinger:
By the way, the difference will be HUGE, and totally worth it once you get it sorted out.
 

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You are doing some great fab work. Gonna go with coilovers in the rear also?
 

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Nice looking build! :beer: This is going to be sweet!

I ran for a week and a half after my rear stretch with only the front driveshaft. Bummer, but liveable.
These things suck as a front wheel drive, and during ice season you might make the news, but in dry weather it's OK.

2 days . . . possible, but don't be surprised if you use one or 2 of your buffer days.
Just do a full inventory of parts and mods before you take it beyond the point of no return (the cuts you have to go poop before).

You're going coilovers, so that saves you better than half a day (lazy ass) . . . so what's left:
Track bar mounts, control arms plus mounts, bump stops, exhaust, locker wiring, wheel speed sensor wiring, shock mounts, axle breather, and brake lines / hoses.

I think that's all so, on second thought, you suck if you don't get it done in 2 days. :thefinger:
By the way, the difference will be HUGE, and totally worth it once you get it sorted out.
Thanks for the advice :beer: Something tells me choosing to go through the floor is going to eat time, but hopefully should be worth it. Also, I tend to stare at things for long periods of time when get frustrated or stuck... lol

Didn't even think of the locker wiring or speed sensor wiring - add that to the list.
 

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Thanks for the advice :beer: Something tells me choosing to go through the floor is going to eat time, but hopefully should be worth it. Also, I tend to stare at things for long periods of time when get frustrated or stuck... lol

Didn't even think of the locker wiring or speed sensor wiring - add that to the list.
Yeah, honestly you're going to do as much work as I did. I was just fookin' widcha. :thefinger:
I spent an honest 50-60 hours over 4 butt-cold days to do mine, but I had to make my rear upper control arms during the stretch, not before.
That 50-60 hours included the body cutting and welding, but I had already done the shock mounts and track bar bracket.

Starting with Poly's kit gives you the advantage of prior engineering and testing. Taking your coilovers through the tub puts you back as hosed as I was timewise.
Do as much pre-fab. as possible before the grand tweeker-style thrash phase of the build. I drove around for weeks with duplicate trackbar and shock mounts.
One of the surprising time sucks for me was cutting off the bump stop brackets with the level of paranoia I felt appropriate to not F up the brackets or frame.

Besides pre-planning everything as much as possible before game time, figure out a contingency plan (e.g., econoshitbox from local car rental agency).
I'm not saying rent a car, just figure out what it would take. Knowing that it's not the end of the world if you can't drive it Monday will keep you from making any compromises on Sunday.
 

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Yeah, honestly you're going to do as much work as I did. I was just fookin' widcha. :thefinger:
I spent an honest 50-60 hours over 4 butt-cold days to do mine, but I had to make my rear upper control arms during the stretch, not before.
That 50-60 hours included the body cutting and welding, but I had already done the shock mounts and track bar bracket.

Starting with Poly's kit gives you the advantage of prior engineering and testing. Taking your coilovers through the tub puts you back as hosed as I was timewise.
Do as much pre-fab. as possible before the grand tweeker-style thrash phase of the build. I drove around for weeks with duplicate trackbar and shock mounts.
One of the surprising time sucks for me was cutting off the bump stop brackets with the level of paranoia I felt appropriate to not F up the brackets or frame.

Besides pre-planning everything as much as possible before game time, figure out a contingency plan (e.g., econoshitbox from local car rental agency).
I'm not saying rent a car, just figure out what it would take. Knowing that it's not the end of the world if you can't drive it Monday will keep you from making any compromises on Sunday.
You are like a mind reader. I am going to schedule a whole week (paid :thefinger:) off. That gives me about 9 days, if needed. I plan to get a rental or borrow during the down time. I also live walking distance to bus stops and have a bus pass. If I seriously go over time it won't be the end of the world. I am not fast when I am hacking away at something for the first time so I know it will probably take all of it. :gluging:

The plan for the stretch:
-8" Synergy stretch, which includes new arms, frame side control arm brackets, and a frame side track bar bracket. Stock bumpstops will be moved back 8."
-Coilover Towers will be set inboard on the frame and connected with DOM. The placement is the only thing that is really undecided. I might do some chopping to the cross member and mount direct above the axle. I might not. I bought the synergy lower control arm skids with shock mounts, so I do have an alternative shock mounting location. The rear track bar bracket looks like it will determine the shock placement. Either way they are going through the floor. I will probably gets some sheet metal and box around them so that the floor is still water tight.
-14" 2.0 remote resi King Coilovers - mount resevoirs to DOM cross member
-4 door e-brake cables
-Hard brake line relocation (maybe - I already replaced both stock rears and mounted them differently because my sway bar links didn't clear properly - they might work as is)
-Lengthen ABS wires, breather hose, locker wires,
-Either ditch the sway bar or it looks like it could be moved back on the frame. The only problem is that the frame is in a lower position. looks doable
-New driveshaft
-Cut off factory exhaust before axle and mount inline muffler and run straight back
-Limit Straps
-Trim sheet metal to allow for full stuff. I am going to try and retain as much of the corner as possible. I do not want to compcut. I will most likely run a modified stock fender flare until Poison Spyder releases their new custom corners.
I might just run like this for a while (forum member Miraz)

-and on the maybe, but really don't wanna do list - removable mudflaps :(

Did I miss anything?
 

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I like where this is going, nice looking 2 Door!
thanks. But it isn't nearly as cool as some of the Jeeps you guys build!

Good looking build. Nice work on the bumper.
Appreciate it. I ended up selling it to another jeeper for $125 I think. Probably will try again sometime in the future when I get a plasma. Building a bumper with an angle grinder is time consuming... lol

Thanks man,
You are doing some great fab work. Gonna go with coilovers in the rear also?
Going to be nice man. I think your one of the first that's going to be running the Polly 8" stretch kit be sure to post plenty of pictures and let me no how it works out for you.
Synergy didn't say I was the first. I know they have it on their Jeep. The kit has been out for a couple years. Anybody else out there have it????
:beer: :D

Great looking build. A very tough project to try and fit in a weekend. I've read that for 8" stretch, four door ebrake cables will work.
I was overly optimistic in my weekend statement. :thefinger: :D
 

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You are like a mind reader. I am going to schedule a whole week (paid :thefinger:) off. That gives me about 9 days, if needed. I plan to get a rental or borrow during the down time. I also live walking distance to bus stops and have a bus pass. If I seriously go over time it won't be the end of the world. I am not fast when I am hacking away at something for the first time so I know it will probably take all of it. :gluging:
That looks like a plan to succeed and have fun doing it: "No pressure, just go play in the garage". :bounce:

The plan for the stretch:
-8" Synergy stretch, which includes new arms, frame side control arm brackets, and a frame side track bar bracket. Stock bumpstops will be moved back 8."
I dig it! Thanks for writing it up, too. I dig the RK stuff, but Poly / Synergy has a killer approach that's at least as good. I'm NOT trying to say one or other is better.
I've been pissed for a while that they never took any good pictures for their web site, or bothered to finish off the corners and offer a complete solution.
Seriously, a Polaroid of the rig hacked together on the lift, and another Polaroid of it in the same state at testing? Just enough info. to sell it on Pirate?
Note to Synergy: take this kit out of the witness protection program, and you might sell the shit out of it :thefinger:
-Coilover Towers will be set inboard on the frame and connected with DOM. The placement is the only thing that is really undecided. I might do some chopping to the cross member and mount direct above the axle. I might not. I bought the synergy lower control arm skids with shock mounts, so I do have an alternative shock mounting location. The rear track bar bracket looks like it will determine the shock placement.
Good point - this is gosp'l trufe. I forgot to mention that. Glad you're thinking through everything. I love checkers, but this is a chess game.
I have less than 1/4" of shock body clearance at the closest point during travel, and some of that might have been luck - my blood went cold when I realized mid-build that I hadn't thought of something.
Either way they are going through the floor. I will probably gets some sheet metal and box around them so that the floor is still water tight and seal out the exhaust.
Consider taking the time to make mating flanges so this a bolt-off deal, seal it with stick-on weatherstrip foam. As a former mechanic, I love making shit accessible.
-14" 2.0 remote resi King Coilovers - mount resevoirs to DOM cross member
-4 door e-brake cables
-Hard brake line relocation (maybe - I already replaced both stock rears and mounted them differently because my sway bar links didn't clear properly - they might work as is)
-Lengthen ABS wires, breather hose, locker wires,
-Either ditch the sway bar or it looks like it could be moved back on the frame. The only problem is that the frame is in a lower position. looks doable
OPTION: There is a Currie Antirock setup for the back on stretched rigs that goes across the top of the frame.
You're not using the Synergy rear coilover mount bar, but look at where it mounts - that's the spot.
I have the axle side of my track bar raised 2" more than rig is lifted, and I'm in no hurry to get the sway bar back in. Suggest getting axle side of TB as high as bump stops will allow.
-New driveshaft
-Cut off factory exhaust before axle and mount inline muffler and run straight back
-Limit Straps
-Trim sheet metal to allow for full stuff. I am going to try and retain as much of the corner as possible. I do not want to compcut. I will most likely run a modified stock fender flare until Poison Spyder releases their new custom corners.
I might just run like this for a while (forum member Miraz)

-and on the maybe, but really don't wanna do list - removable mudflaps :(

Did I miss anything?
You will be cutting away the structure that makes the rear tubes of the cage anything beyond decorative.
Suggest stealing the idea of a chunk of surplus stock control arm with bushing mounted to frame meeting a clevis made out of plate mating it to the tub.
I'm sure you've seen Co4Lo's pics of this? I totally trust that structurally, and it still allows some body flex - hopefully enough to avoid sheet metal cracks.

Synergy didn't say I was the first. I know they have it on their Jeep. The kit has been out for a couple years. Anybody else out there have it????
Note to Synergy: take this kit out of the witness protection program, and you might sell the shit out of it :thefinger:

I was overly optimistic in my weekend statement. :thefinger: :D
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