Synthethic winch cable...fitment question.

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StubEXrube

Discussion Starter · Sep 21, 2008

I have a Warn 8000xi winch and my steel 5/16" cable is about shot. I am going to go with a 3/8" synthetic line to replace it.

Does anyone know if 100 ft of 3/8'' synthetic line will spool up completely on the drum? If it was 100 ft of 5/16" then I wouldn't be concerned...but with the thicker diameter line, I am wondering (?).

Also, I am considering the Viking combo fire line, but can't decide if that's overkill. The first wrap of this line is heat resistant to 450 degrees (I think). Has anyone experienced a synthetic winch line "melting" onto the drum? I never realized that heat may be an issue with synthetic line, however...if anyone has seen this happen ...please advise. Thanks for help on this.

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John L

· #21 · Sep 27, 2008

TEEJ said:
The MasterPull winch ropes at 5/16" are good for 21,000 - 23,000 lb.

That's stronger than the Viking 3/8" line listed above.

So - If you WANT 125' of line, and you want it strong, get 125' of 5/16 line that can pull over 20K lb, instead of 100' of 3/8" line that can't pull that much.

Me, I'd rather reach further AND pull harder.

(The lines are not all the same. They have common elements, but, they have important differences. That includes price. After a point of diminishing return, the line is stronger than you need it to be, and, using a telephone pole thick cable is not going to make your recoveries easier. Think camera megapixels...after 3-4 million, most of the extra is typically just using up hard drive, w/o making the picture nicer. - If you don't NEED the extra length, or strength, a less expensive line can be a great choice )

I'll agree on everything but the camera anology. More is better if you want clear prints that are BIG. Why settle for 5x7 when you can go 12x18 or larger...

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StubEXrube

Discussion Starter · #22 · Sep 27, 2008

John L said:
I'll agree on everything but the camera anology. More is better if you want clear prints that are BIG. Why settle for 5x7 when you can go 12x18 or larger...

As for the camera...Whatever Alec says!

TEEJ- The only Master Pull and Viking synthetic lines that I've found are all 100ft. As John suggested, I am a little intimidated to use a line that is actually two lines spliced together, as with the Viking Combo line. It seems that while 3/8 line may not ness pull a lot more load than the 5/16... it would seem like some added piece of mind to have the 3/8 if one of the outer braids were to become shredded or melted, as suggested by WTF_LOL.

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TEEJ

· #23 · Sep 27, 2008

As I said, that's just me....you can use what ever YOUR use justifies.

As for the camera part...LOL, as I said, typically...more than 3-4 megapixels is wasted hard drive.

That's because, typically, most people DO NOT blow up their images past ~ 8x10.

Just like ocean liners, sure, they tie off with rope, but, its a bigger rope than the rest of us TYPICALLY use, as THEIR needs are greater.

They use synthetic lines too, before the off roaders did actually.

So - IF you are one of the people making murals, etc...sure, you need stronger lines (That may be the first time anyone ever said that...)

Of course, that also means the WINCH should be stronger, to take advantage of the added line strength...

Especially if you have to use a block and tackle to multiply force because the winch could not pull hard enough...and the shorter available line reach would then be a limiting factor in recovery range, etc.

Its a slippery slope...

:lol:

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