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The High altitude pulley was designed with altitude in mind, where the air is not a dense. We feel that our standard pulley is perfect for the vast majority of our customers. People that are looking to give their Jeep "the power it SHOULD have had". Our 50 state legal for on road use system was designed with reliability as the paramount requirement, not maximum power.

That being said, what gear are you running?

RIPP
Still haven't regeared yet but was gonna do that in next couple weeks. I always thought that 5.13's on the 2 dr auto JK with 35's would be best way to go for daily driver. If I went with RIPP I would grab a complete setup with all the bells and whistles (if that is an option).
 
skip to 7:20 in the video to see a planmans RIPP do work on 40s and 60s.

proper gearing will make the biggest difference, if you buy a supercharger because you dont want to change the gears......:suicide:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQu7ISBJ844
Thats AWESOME - That's Planman litersally kickin the $hit out of Moab in a RIPP powered JK... and Moab at 5000ft elevation - So again that's our standard kit right out of the box with no custom tuning - Thats exactly what you can expect...

Thanks for sharing.
 
Still haven't regeared yet but was gonna do that in next couple weeks. I always thought that 5.13's on the 2 dr JK with 35's would be best way to go for daily driver. If I went with RIPP I would grab a complete setup with all the bells and whistles (if that is an option).
Definitely regear first. All of our potential customers, especially with the AT, we suggest regear fist, then if you feel after that, that you need more power, consider us.
Definitely just in terms of conserving your drive line/AT. 5.13:1 would be the exact gear that we would suggest for your vehicles setup.

RIPP
 
Doesn't the California motor swap law state that the vehicle must be 8 years or older in-order to preform a swap and be smog legal? I had a friend of mine just have a VVT hemi swap done at JSS and that is what he was told. So his Jeep is a 2010 so he can "legally" smog it in 2018. I'm not positive on this, I figured you guys can clarify.
 
A local guy in Montana built an LS3 4 dr Rubi on 40s, long arm, low miles, and he has been trying to sell it for maybe 2 years now for $40k. I don't think he will get much more than $5k more than it would be with a 3.8L. Fun rig, but needs tons to be reliable.
PM, could you elaborate a little what needs to be done for it to be reliable? After install it's not good to go as is? Thanks
 
Thats not true - we are inherently conservative in our approach and therefore have not released any more HP... Clients seem very happy with the safe power we provide along with the additional MPG
What is your blower system capable of if you are willing to push the 3.8 a little bit harder than your average customer?
 
If I could afford the cash to drop on a v8 swap then I prolly wouldn't want a raptor anymore lol. But for me even if I did have the cash out wouldn't be a stock 5.3.... cam, heads and intake would be in and on before I even did the swap. Or maybe Just throw a mast motorsports 454 lsx In it lol.

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Thats not true - we are inherently conservative in our approach and therefore have not released any more HP... Clients seem very happy with the safe power we provide along with the additional MPG.

RIPPTECH
So, All 3000 customers were satisfied with the power increase that came with your kit?


"Seem happy" and "are happy" aren't the same thing. I see quite a few builds with people pulling your s/c off of their rig to swap in a V8. You mean they could have just called and you could have given them a tune for an extra 40hp/40tq+ without it adding any additional stress to the engine?
 
So, All 3000 customers were satisfied with the power increase that came with your kit?
RIPP tunes their setups for reliability.

With headers, a more aggressive tune, and the higher psi pulley, the performance would be higher.

Based on my experience, people not satisfied with a RIPP either:

Did not run a higher psi pulley.

Have an 07-11 automatic, and their disappointment is more with the tranny gearing than the supercharged engine.

Did not regear axles low enough to put the engine above 2500 rpm on the highway or have a low enough crawl ratio off-road to run the rpms over 2500 when they needed the extra power.

Use cruise control at highway speeds for daily use--the JK cruise control does not adjust quickly enough and in small enough increments to handle the power, resulting in some surging in windy or higher speed conditions.


One of my 2 RIPPs I bought used from a guy in South Dakota that upgraded to a '12 to get more power, without realizing that if he regeared and ran the smaller pulley, he would have saved himself a load of money.


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I'll throw in my 2 pennies since I own both a 1-ton SRT8 Hemi JKU and a 1-ton Ripp Supercharged 2-door. Both running 42-44" tires at 6,000 to 14,000 feet altitude.

My 2-Door is badass. Maybe you've seen it around. It's full-blown one-ton with the heaviest duty shit all over it and 44" Rockers. It's running the Ripp and has impressed me with it's reliability, power, torque (Search Co4Lo Ripp for dyno vids) and has also impressed/influenced many others on the trail, including Planman. I have plenty of money to put an LS, Cummins, Hemi, Flux Capacitor, whatever in it. BUT I haven't done so because the Jeep makes plenty of power, keeps up on the highway (with tons and 44's), and has proven to be reliable as hell. And the best part is, I'm not really worried about breaking stuff... and it does sound ultra cool with the right exhaust. (scientific secret to get it right though:bawling:).

My 4-Door is also badass. Still undergoing it's 1-Ton transformation, but wheeled Moab with it on D44's and 37's over this past EJS. It was a ******* blast to idle up everything with 500hp. It was also a blast to drive it out over the big mountain passes with the cruise control set and never having to manage the gears. It sounds ******* tits like pure american displacement should. And I absolutely love it. No complaints!

Both options are excellent. I'm extremely satisfied with both Jeeps. But there is no doubt that the Supercharger will cost you less money. Period.

Economically speaking, I think you will more likely get a better return on investment (if selling/trading) with a Supercharger. And if it looks gloom on the return, you can always remove it and sell it separately. So that's something important to consider.

Obviously in my position, I'm not really biased since I own both. But I can sincerely tell you guys, that I plan on running my Ripp until I have a reason not to anymore. And I haven't found one yet. ;)
 
There aren't a lot of Avenger guys chiming in, so here goes:
I can't comment on the Ripp, never seen one. I did find the early Ripp power numbers odd in that there was a tendency to use base numbers from autos with post Ripp numbers from standards, so I gave up on trying to figure out the real increases.
The Avenger does deliver a power curve that is a near parallel of the stock curve, just 45-50% higher numbers, depending on where the dyno is done. Never spun the 37's on dry pavement, but I could live with that.
I had 2 problems with the set up;
1) my egr hose was kinked when it was installed. The odd code but no problems until the higher egr temps burned a small hole which threw random but increasing egr related limp modes. Took a while to track down, but an easy fix. Rerouted with silicone hose. I was SURE it was map or pcv related.

2) the ignition coil is relocated and I had mine too close to a hard corner. Vibration wore a thin spot in a spark plug wire. Very hard to see until far too late. Easy to fix though.
The power was fun, great around town, noticeable improvement doing 'bumps' on trails, but not really needed.
Mine is an auto and that's the real problem. I would probably not have considered the Motech 5.3 swap if the transmission didn't ratchet it's way into gear, overheat and shift almost randomly. A better tranny as part of a huge torque gain?! I'm in.
 
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When running the 3.8, with or without a supercharger, regearing is normally required. With an LS and a 6l80e transmission regearing is usually not required, stock gears work fine. This closes the gap on the cost of a supercharger versus a V8 even further.

Most of my customers paid to have their superchargers professionally installed and regeared. Most are running headers and a cat back exhaust system as well as custom tuning. This can add up to close to 10,000 dollars so the gap between a supercharged 3.8 and a V8 is not that much. In addition you should expect at least 200,000 trouble free miles with a v8.



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I am currently running the RIPP intercooled supercharger system, RIPP long tube headers with Flowmaster "Hush Power" resonator, OEM muffler, tuned with RIPP's Diablo tuner, 4.10 gears and 315x70x17 Pro Comp MT2s with a 6spd manual transmission (Rubicon JKU). My wife's vehicle is a Nissan Armada which has a 5.6L Hemispherical Combustion V8 (same as a HEMI but not made by Dodge/Chrysler) and puts out a reported 300hp. My assessment of the RIPP is that it has made the Jeep very comparable to the V8 in the Armada with relation to performance power on the road.

The RIPP is very easy to personally install as well. I personally installed everything (buddy helped with a second set of hands for the exhaust) following the color-photo detailed instruction manual that came with the system and took me exactly what the instructions said for the supercharger kit (appx 6 hours) and exhaust system (appx 4 hours). When I was finished installing everything and programmed the Jeep with the Diablo tuner, everything started up working exactly as it was suppose to with no lights on the dash. It has been working perfect after 3 weeks with zero issues.

As a side note, my wife who has refused to drive the jeep in the past due to lack of power needed without constantly downshifting due to all of the Oahu "hilly roads" (and needed to regear) was very surprised today after driving the jeep....she damaged her Armada door and is at the body shop so she didnt have a choice. After she arrived where she had to go, the first thing she did was pick up the phone and call me to tell me she couldn't believe the Jeep performed as strong as her Armada and wasn't worried about driving the hills anymore. (just hoping she isn't going to start stealing the jeep to run errands when I am not looking)! HAHA

I am very happy with the power gains so far, as well as the following fuel mileage increased I have had so far.....I still need to make an off-road trip to have fun with the torque increase, but this is my feedback so far):

Prior to installing the RIPP (13.3mpg):




After installing the RIPP and running a 1/4 tank of gas (15.4mpg):





After running 3/4 tank of gas and filling up (18.3mpg):

 
With you guys running Ripps, how many miles do have on your motors? I am just about at 60K and would love nothing more than to have to extra power of the Ripp, but am hesitant to put a Ripp on a motor with that many miles. I plan to keep my jeep for a long time and just dont know if i should hold out a few years for a ls or just get the Ripp in the next year or two. Thanks
 
When running the 3.8, with or without a supercharger, regearing is normally required. With an LS and a 6l80e transmission regearing is usually not required, stock gears work fine. This closes the gap on the cost of a supercharger versus a V8 even further.

Most of my customers paid to have their superchargers professionally installed and regeared. Most are running headers and a cat back exhaust system as well as custom tuning. This can add up to close to 10,000 dollars so the gap between a supercharged 3.8 and a V8 is not that much. In addition you should expect at least 200,000 trouble free miles with a v8.



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How much is a turnkey, drop your rig off in Vegas, 5.3L swap with crate engine and tranny?

How much of that is labor?

I love your product, and would say there is a good chance I'll run it if I blow the 3.8L in any of our 3 JKs.

I'd disagree about regearing if the jeep is regularly off roaded running 37s or larger.


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With you guys running Ripps, how many miles do have on your motors? I am just about at 60K and would love nothing more than to have to extra power of the Ripp, but am hesitant to put a Ripp on a motor with that many miles. I plan to keep my jeep for a long time and just dont know if i should hold out a few years for a ls or just get the Ripp in the next year or two. Thanks

Doesn't help much given I am pretty low on my '07 with less than 44k miles, but I have seen other Jeepers posting on some of the other forums having over 100k miles on their JKs running a RIPP.
 
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How much is a turnkey, drop your rig off in Vegas, 5.3L swap with crate engine and tranny?

How much of that is labor?

I love your product, and would say there is a good chance I'll run it if I blow the 3.8L in any of our 3 JKs.

I'd disagree about regearing if the jeep is regularly off roaded running 37s or larger.


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Your correct, stock gears work well up to 35's. We run 3:21's up to 32". Of coarse 37's or larger will benefit from gears, but with the 6l80's 4:1 low first gear and V8 torque it's not as critical. You can run stock Rubi 4:10's with 32"-35" tires with no need to regear. I got plenty of customers running 3:73's with 35's, makes a good highway gear.

35's work perfect with 4:10's. 4:56-4:88's with 37's. A 6.2 will pull 37's with 4:10's. Point is you don't need to spin the LS up like a 3.8 with 5:13+ gears. Notice the 5.3 in the video is holding 80 mph just fine uphill under 2,000 rpm with 3:21 gears. So if you had a Sahara with 3:73's or a Rubi with 4:10's and 35's you wouldn't need to regear and save about a grand.

We charge $5k for labor install. A new crate 5.3 will be in the $15-16k range based on options. We offer tapshift, HD radiator, scan gauge, etc. The 6.0 is turning out to be a good value, about the same price as a 5.3 it has 380 ft lbs of torque.

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