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Well last weekend I came really close to loosing a valve stem, it was crused and the "needle" was bent bad, fixed it with some needle nose, but I don't really want them in anymore. Second time they've taken a hit. Talked to 4WheelParts and they said they cannot replace them with rubber ones for safety issues. Said if a vehicle comes with them, it has to have them and they could be held liable if something happened due to not having a TPMS.

So, should I just try to play dumb and hit a Les Schwab or some other tire place and just ask for my "Metal ones" to be replaced by "Those black bendy ones"?

Has anyone removed theirs? The TPMS light is always on now anyways, but if theyre not there at all will it go away or will I just forever have a pretty picture of a flat tire with a ! inside of it?

I know some of the programmers can adjust the PSI that the TPMS kicks off at, but can they remove the feature alltogether?

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If you remove- yes you will learn to live with the little flat tire lit on the dash.

The AEV programmer can set the threshold at zero PSI (so I've heard). Which basically is disabling the sensor altogether.
 
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Yes, the AEV Procal can set the TPMS to 0 psi which is like turning it off. At $120 is cheaper than replacing OEM TPMS values.
 

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Im not a fan of the metal valve stems off road.
When I got aftermarket wheels I used some small rubber valve stems and used the AEV ProCal to set the PSI to zero.
No warning lites since! :D
 

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cool, thanx for the info, now to find somewhere that will take em out.

I had America's Tires take 'em out for me, but they did sell me my tires, too. Give 'em a try, anyhow.
 

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Les Schwab mounted my Toyos on my Walker Evans wheels w/o the TPMS sensors. I did buy the tires there though. TPMS light stays on all the time and every once in an while there is a 'ding'. I may get the Procal to turn this off, but I don't really notice it anymore.

-Hijack- MaRShiN, looks like you had a great time at the Hammers. :D We'll have to do Fordyce and the Rubicon this summer!! :bounce: -end Hijack-
 

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If your willing to pop the bead, you can do it yourself.
The TPMS sensor will have to be pulled from the inside of the tire, and the new rubber stem put in from the inside as well.
 

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When we moved to 35" BFG's and TR beadlocks with the thick rings, we knew that the TPMS sensors wouldn't fit, and didn't want to break the beads on the factory wheels/tires anyways.

With the AEV Procal, we set the TPMS to 0psi, and it disabled the light flawlessly.
 

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Take the tires off the jeep and take them to the tire place in another vehicle. Tell them you sold the tires and wheels and you want to take the TPMS valves out to put in your new beadlocks, but you need rubber valves for the new guy that has a 2007 JK without TPMS. It lets them off the hook and they probably won't want to mess with the beadlocks either since they're not DOT approved.

I hate bureaucracy.
 

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Just a note regarding smog checks and vehicle warning lights.

Although smog checks aren't required for new vehicles, the fact remains someday they will need to be if you live in an area that requires smog check. Many places will not pass you on a smog check if a vehicle was a warning/malfunction light on regardless of the fact that it has nothing to do with exhaust. If you remove the system and the light it still on you could have issues in the future, even if it is several years down the road.

Some areas may not be as stringent as others though.
 

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you know, I wouldn't put it past Cali to fail a smog for a TPMS light, I'm getting sick of the BS here. But from what it sounds like, it won't be long b4 it spread across the country


"More U.S. states are considering the switch to California's more stringent clean air standards, which include auto emissions, reliable sources within the regulatory community tell AI. New York and Massachusetts have already adopted the California Air Resources Board's LEV2 auto emissions regulations. Now, "Texas and Georgia are very likely to join them" in abandoning their adherence to U.S. federal (49-state) clean air standards, "even with the stricter Tier 2 federal standards," emits one of our moles. Florida is also seriously considering the switch. If a heavyweight state such as Texas opts for the tough CARB standards, the remaining Northeastern states may be the next bloc to fall. State legislators across the United States are being increasingly pressured to pass tougher air quality standards, particularly in the Northeast."


That was an old article though, but I think the rest of you WILL suffer like we do soon unfortunatly.
 

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We had to get my wife's Grand Cherokee smogged while waiting for a new shifter. Sure enough, we failed. The guy didn't even plug into the vehicle, just tuned the key into the on position, saw that the light wouldn't go away and said sorry, come back when the problem is fixed. We tried explaining the problem and he said it didn't matter if the exhaust was within the legal limits, he was not allowed to pass a vehicle with any trouble/malfunction lights on. He even showed me on the computer where it had the question "Are any malfunction indicators illuminated?".
 

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I removed mine and went to rubber stems months ago. I use the AEV Procal to set the threshold to zero, turning off the warning. I wouldn't have it any other way. (unless the TPMS provided actual tire pressure numbers)
 

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I replaced mine with size "412" rubber stems. They are really short, about 3/4-7/8" and I got them at NAPA and the mom&pop shop where I bought the tires put them in for me. Technically illegal for them to do that, so some shops may not do it.
 
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