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Well, after tossing a few or more with a bunch of former squadron mates at the Oceana Naval Air Station O' Club, I was pleasantly surprised that not one individual in that Officer's club was surprised of the financial debacle that has befallen America...we all agreed that the civilian sector, whether it be political, financial, or just plain ol' greed brought this mess and now wants Joe Mainstreet to pick up the pieces.

In the last 25+ years or so, I have watched how this country has lowered the bar on virtually every aspect of American life...we have lowered the bar to obtaining financial credit, we have lowered the bar to obtaining college credit, we have lowered the bar to obtaining a high school diploma; we have lowered the bar for college admissions...and NOW, we want to lower the bar for obtaining a president.

To be sure, we have had a few presidents lower the bar themselves, whether it had to do with marital fidelity, honesty, prior drug use, integrity, morality...but NOW, we want to lower the bar a few notches or more for this freshman do nothing, present for but no accounting for, million dollars a day pork project requesting, breaking bread with PLO member(s), racist clergy associating, domestic terrorist friends, dilitante with a wife who hates America.

This joker has admitted to prior marijuana and cocaine use. The mere admission to such prior activities is a permanent bar to employment in the nuclear sector, wheteher it be public, private, or military. Speaking of the military, admitting to prior cocaine use is not a bar to enlistment, but most definitely a bar to any job that would allow one access to sensitve material...hence, you would be relegated to the food service jobs, chaplain's aid jobs, and basic non-sensitive clerical duties, or perhaps as a ship's boatswain's mate. NOW, we want to give this do nothing and most devisive presidential candidate a pass, and allow him access to America's most sensitive secrets, AND, with a dirty finger on the "football".

So, to allow this dangerous candidate to campaign for the most important and powerfull position on earth, we must allow ourselves to be very comfortable with lowering that bar to access. Where now, can we find an experienced, patriotic, and selfless individual who has a clean and stellar past, one who has answered the call to duty above and beyond, and then some...one who will bring back the dignity, honor, and morality the White House more then deserves? We find that, quite simply, in John McCain.

John McCain has not always been right, nor is he everything we want in a president...he may be a bit mature, and not tall, dark, and handsome, but he has everything middle America wants in a president...honesty, self sacrificing, moral, God, family, and country first...all others take a hike.

John McCain didn't spend 20 years in a church pew with the same "pastor" and then deny not ever knowing of his pastor's racists leanings...John McCain did not spend two years shooting a staple gun at telephone poles while a community antagonist. John McCain did not spend eight years as a state senator voting "present" in order to avoid confrontation or alienating his corrupt backers. John McCain spent 22 years as a Naval Officer shooting at the enemy, foreign and domestic. John McCain has spent 22 years as a senator voting on controversial bills, and having some of his controversial bills denied by the corruption that is Washington and the democratic party.

The choice is clear friends...do we raise the bar back up where it should be, or do we lower it some more so that some political hack with oh so shady associations, affiliations, and connections, be allowed to drive that last nail in the coffin that could be America?

OK...I'm done...have at it folks.
 

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You're funny karn...thanks for the chuckles.
 

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You forget that the things you don’t like by Obama are gold stars for the libs. Just like pointing out he hung out with 60’s radicals (terrorist). That’s who they are.:shaking::pissed:
 

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Yeah we're all morons. Us poor libs (who are about to have the whitehouse and congress).

I sure hope some of our conservative judges are coming up on retirement!

CHANGE!!!

My die hard republican brother comes up to me this weekend and says (out of the blue), "You're gonna be proud of me, I'm voting for Obama."

That's the high water mark right there.

Yes, I am gloating.
I never said you were a moron.:thefinger: I just feel that most libs are left over from the 60’s mind set. We have different views on things. If you lived next to a nuclear power plant would you hire someone to run it that admits to using “hard” drugs in the past? I mean don’t get me wrong I some times feel that G dub has used something…:smokin: I also feel that when McCain says something I believe him and when Obama talks I feel he is just saying what it takes to get elected. Maybe I am the moron????
 

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I never said you were a moron.:thefinger: I just feel that most libs are left over from the 60’s mind set. We have different views on things. If you lived next to a nuclear power plant would you hire someone to run it that admits to using “hard” drugs in the past? I mean don’t get me wrong I some times feel that G dub has used something…:smokin: I also feel that when McCain says something I believe him and when Obama talks I feel he is just saying what it takes to get elected. Maybe I am the moron????
No doug...the silent majority has yet to rear it's patriotic head...we have 29 days...anything can happen...AND, if we as a nation elect this radical thug known as Obama, then my application for citizenship in Costa Rica, which is pending, will be a slam dunk...I'll come back when the jihad is over.:pissed:
 

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as was osama...bar to military, civilian, and public security clearances....read: bar to the presidency.
 

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More chuckles....damn I'm gonna' $hit myself if this keps up...now, on a more sober note...karn and Ms, dayton...you two remind me so much of the folks in Jones Town who just couldn't wait to partake in the Kool Aid ho-down...LMFAO
 

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Aw geeezzeee...she drank the Kool-Aid........
 

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Dusty....if you could ever actually post a FACT about Obama, rather than the crap that you've been posting, somebody might listen.

You only post garbage that you get in emails and is completely false. You probably believe all the crap you read, and vote against your own better interests. You do nothing but post stupid jokes, name-call, and talk about things that you don't even understand (if you did, you'd know that the stuff you are posting is garbage).

Have fun in Costa Rica...though you might be outclassed. The education rate there is purportedly pretty high.
 

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Dusty....if you could ever actually post a FACT about Obama, rather than the crap that you've been posting, somebody might listen.

You only post garbage that you get in emails and is completely false. You probably believe all the crap you read, and vote against your own better interests. You do nothing but post stupid jokes, name-call, and talk about things that you don't even understand (if you did, you'd know that the stuff you are posting is garbage).

Have fun in Costa Rica...though you might be outclassed. The education rate there is purportedly pretty high.
Heh heh heh.....looks to me like you have been "listening"....I would post some history on Obama if there WAS any...other then his close ties to extremist, radical, racists, terrorist, jihadists, there are no other "FACTS" to report....now, you ought to seek help for that obvious bowel obstruction...it appears you are not one for levity, and your smug and superior know it all attitude smacks of typical leftist socialist responses when faced with the truth...get an enema...you might see the light:shaking:

P.S....read your own post...it's embarrassing.
 

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Heh heh heh.....I would post some history on Obama if there WAS any...other then his close ties to extremist, radical, racists, terrorist, jihadists, there are no other "FACTS" to report....now, you ought to seek help for that obvious bowel obstruction...it appears you are not one for levity, and your smug and superior know it all attitude smacks of typical leftist socialist responses when faced with the truth...get an enema...you might see the light:shaking:

P.S....read your own post...it's embarrassing.
Fortunately, you're the only one who sees it that way. As for bowel obstructions.....the only one bothering me...is you. You, sir, are the turd that clogs America's gut. I am all for educated, fact-based debate....but you have offered none of that in any of your political posts. If you could post one single fact, I might find some respect for you one day.
 

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Heh heh heh.....I would post some history on Obama if there WAS any...other then his close ties to extremist, radical, racists, terrorist, jihadists, there are no other "FACTS" to report....now, you ought to seek help for that obvious bowel obstruction...it appears you are not one for levity, and your smug and superior know it all attitude smacks of typical leftist socialist responses when faced with the truth...get an enema...you might see the light:shaking:

P.S....read your own post...it's embarrassing.
How about some McCain facts then

From 1908 to 1937 the children of Americans born in Panama were not automatically given citizenship. America passed a law in 1937 granting citizen ship to all those born in Panama from 1908 to 1937 and all those after.
McCain was born in 1936 in Panama, so was not a citizen for almost a year and is not a natural born citizen.


Article Two of the United States Constitution

Article Two describes the presidency (the executive branch). The article establishes the manner of election and qualifications of the President, the oath to be affirmed and the powers and duties of the office. The President must be a natural born citizen of the United States, be at least 35 years old, and a resident of the United States for at least 14 years. . .


But then, when do the neo-pubs care what is in The Constitution?
 

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How about some McCain facts then

From 1908 to 1937 the children of Americans born in Panama were not automatically given citizenship. America passed a law in 1937 granting citizen ship to all those born in Panama from 1908 to 1937 and all those after.
McCain was born in 1936 in Panama, so was not a citizen for almost a year and is not a natural born citizen.


Article Two of the United States Constitution

Article Two describes the presidency (the executive branch). The article establishes the manner of election and qualifications of the President, the oath to be affirmed and the powers and duties of the office. The President must be a natural born citizen of the United States, be at least 35 years old, and a resident of the United States for at least 14 years. . .


But then, when do the neo-pubs care what is in The Constitution?
We went through all that when McCain ran in 2000 or 2004. America bought the Panama canal area and that's where McCain was born. I'll be so glad when this is over, I'm tired of the drama. And no matter who gets elected some people will scream IMPEACH IMPEACH.
Please read this article, It has FACTS
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0


"But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years."

"Oh, and there is one little footnote to the story that's worth keeping in mind while Democrats point fingers between now and Nov. 4: Senator John McCain was one of the three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have averted this mess. "

Oh, and McCain was cleared of ALL wrong doing in the Keating 5 S&L scandal.
 

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Well Dustoff. I know I disagree with the left, and probably with the right!
But you really hit the nail on the head with the FACT that the bar has been lowered in our great nation! It happens more and more.
Sorry Hansen, the facts are out there. BOTH vote records are available online. Both are politicians and NEITHER have the best interest of our nation at heart. IMO <<<
So care to support your candidate with anything POSITIVE that he has done? ANY positive history that supports your belief of why he will bring such great change?
The past does indicate the probable future direction. Laws of human nature often mimick those of physics.
Back to the OP. Great point on the idea of lowering the bar.
Note that Costa Rica WAS a good retirement place, and Karn is right about the other areas. They offer very kind people and a very peaceful ideology.
BTW, America was founded by people who "ran away" from politics that they were sick and tired of. If you believe the history books. LOL
 

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How about some McCain facts then

From 1908 to 1937 the children of Americans born in Panama were not automatically given citizenship. America passed a law in 1937 granting citizen ship to all those born in Panama from 1908 to 1937 and all those after.
McCain was born in 1936 in Panama, so was not a citizen for almost a year and is not a natural born citizen.


Article Two of the United States Constitution

Article Two describes the presidency (the executive branch). The article establishes the manner of election and qualifications of the President, the oath to be affirmed and the powers and duties of the office. The President must be a natural born citizen of the United States, be at least 35 years old, and a resident of the United States for at least 14 years. . .


But then, when do the neo-pubs care what is in The Constitution?

highonidon'tknowwhat....John McCain could have been born in the Belgium Congo and it wouldn't matter...his father was career Navy...many dependent children of US military personnel are born in other countries...their nationalities are determined by the parent's home of record...that's how it works:shaking:
 

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I could care less who did what drug when. Millions of professoinals out there using drugs right now.

Geee....I'm glad I don't need a speech therapy technician...and BTW, do ya' think those millions of professionals worked on Wall Street?:shaking:
 
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