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As much as I hate to do this I have to say something.
On jan 10 I ordered 4 sets of lights from him

Long story short after several attempts at communication I have neither my money or my lights.

I was told several times that they would ship next week.
I understand that his wife had a baby and delays in receiving the product in from china but I think a reasonable amount of time has passed. in addition my last several attempts at finding out what has happened or if i can get a refund have ended with him seeing it and never responding. Im fed up. I want my lights or a refund. Its sad if his business is in such a bad way that he cant refund or ship 160 bucks. So right now 2 of my friends are asking me for their money back because 2 of those light sets were going to them.


after this I went back to jko and found were he had posted his number and apologized for delays. once he figured out who i was he stopped responding again. I dont know why im getting black balled but hopefully we can get this resolved.
I truly hate having to resort to this but Iam out of options short of flying to california for a face to face.







Im really frustrated with this. Ive sent lots of people his way and this isnt the first order ive placed with him.
Any suggestions for getting this sorted out?
 

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They used to be a vendor on here. Pretty shitty business dealings. :nono:
 

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i was too understanding and they only allow problems within the first 45 days. Im outside the window that they will help:nono:
 

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Wow, this really sucks. I have had a couple of people PM me about KMD in the last month asking about orders and if he was still in business. I hope he gets all of this sorted out for you.
 

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Not sure what his deal is with PayPal...I bought a set of lights from him about a year ago and they didn't work out for my application due to the bracket. They were advertised as money back guarantee if not happy. He took them back, I shipped them on my dime, and paypal'd me back my money rather quickly. Not sure what has changed.

Hope you gets your money back to you soon Oscar.
 

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apparently im not the only one having problems. and now the kmd garage facebook page is down.



and the web page is down as well
 

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Looks like KMD did the same thing on a Taco forum group buy ........... and after over six months people still don't have lights or a refund.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/group-buys/275070-quantum-led-group-buy-2-a-27.html


I am actually surprised that the pitchforks haven't come out on Pirate yet.

Sorry for your luck, Oscar. Not sure what recourse you have left, since KMD seems to stop visiting forums once this kind of thing happens.



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It got me blocked but it seems to have gotten this douche bags attention.





so in theory in 1-2 business days i will have my money back. unless his card gets declined or some bull shit to that effect.

didnt like the way i had to do it but it worked.
 

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Sometimes when a snowball starts, it's impossible to stop it until it hits bottom and blows up. He was burying his head in the sand, no doubt, but dragging the guys Wife into your attack was pretty lame. Just my take on it. You can be mad at him all you want.
 

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you are aloud to have your opinion and i am aloud to disagree. her name is listed as a principal party in kmd according to what ive found on the internet. thats what you get when you start a husband and wife business. so when the point of contact no longer answers phone calls, texts, emails, and messages to both the business account and to his personal account then takes down the website and the facebook page and makes no effort to contact the people he is screwing out of money and time what do you expect me to do? He never apologized or reopened the facebook page. now i know you two must be friends but i dont care how bad things get. it takes 3 fucking seconds to send an email. this is not a way to operate a business.
 

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you are aloud to have your opinion and i am aloud to disagree. her name is listed as a principal party in kmd according to what ive found on the internet. thats what you get when you start a husband and wife business. so when the point of contact no longer answers phone calls, texts, emails, and messages to both the business account and to his personal account then takes down the website and the facebook page and makes no effort to contact the people he is screwing out of money and time what do you expect me to do? He never apologized or reopened the facebook page. now i know you two must be friends but i dont care how bad things get. it takes 3 fucking seconds to send an email. this is not a way to operate a business.
What you don't seem to get is that regardless of circumstance, family is off limits, especially Wife and Kids. Did she ever respond to any of your posts? Nope. She probably doesn't even know the extent of what is going on. We have an unspoken rule around here about family being off limits. Learn it, live it, love it, or GTFO.

By the way, let me teach you how to be an adult. If you want to buy shit using PayPal or directly on the internet, use a credit card from a reputable bank. That way you can file a claim and be reimbursed directly right away and let the bank go after him for his business practices instead of being a whiney vag on here. What do you think JKO is going to do? He isn't even a vendor on here anymore. He took his site down. He isn't selling online anymore, what else do you want the internet to do for you? Take some personal responsibility for making a judgement error in how you handled your personal finances instead of getting personal with someone who also made an error in business practice. Learn from the mistake and avoid stooping to even lower levels to prove a point. I hope you get your money back, honestly. I don't appreciate or understand this internet flaming shit when you are partially to blame for not protecting yourself.
 

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Oscar, if the wife's name is on a business and that business owes you money then you have absolutely every right to contact her as long as its done in a reasonable manner.

KMD Garage was a vendor on here at the time and you have every right to notify us of problems after a reasonable effort to resolve the issue privately. I hate seeing people blast vendors/companies without giving them a reasonable opportunity to make things right. You made that effort.

I was very seriously considering getting the fog light set up once he had a plug and play version ready, so, thank you for saving me and probably several others money and a lot of headache.
 

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Thanks jrider. I appreciate the support.

Jkatz its obvious that he is your pal. So I'm not gonna argue with ya. I can appreciate standing up for your friends. You really don't need to attack me personally. I didn't do that to you.
 

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Thanks jrider. I appreciate the support.

Jkatz its obvious that he is your pal. So I'm not gonna argue with ya. I can appreciate standing up for your friends. You really don't need to attack me personally. I didn't do that to you.
How is giving you sage financial advice attacking you, I was merely pointing out that you chose to inherit a risk that you didn't need to... You're trying to drag a forum into a situation that could easily have been circumvented regardless of his actions. I am not defending my "buddy", I am pointing out that both parties made mistakes. You have a responsibility to protect yourself and not assume everyone has your best interest in mind, cause you know what? They don't. :thankyou:
 

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Wow. You make alot of assumptions. First off I did have myself protected. Using paypal Problem was at the 45 day mark I contacted the Robert and asked. He said he just got them in and it was shipping out. He lied to me. Guess my problem is believing people.


And implying that I am not an adult is a personal attack. That wasn't necessary and I would not do that to you so please refrain from it towards me. And I still fail to see why you are so set on defending bad customer service from a person who was a vendor on here at the time of purchase.

But you've made your point. Its time for you to move on. Thank-you for the advice next time ill try and remember that :thumbup:
 

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Oscar, if the wife's name is on a business and that business owes you money then you have absolutely every right to contact her as long as its done in a reasonable manner.

KMD Garage was a vendor on here at the time and you have every right to notify us of problems after a reasonable effort to resolve the issue privately. I hate seeing people blast vendors/companies without giving them a reasonable opportunity to make things right. You made that effort.

I was very seriously considering getting the fog light set up once he had a plug and play version ready, so, thank you for saving me and probably several others money and a lot of headache.
I don't think she argued when he was bringing in the dough and not shipping out product.

You are warranted in your actions to call her out too.
 
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