[ALASHA]

Those of you who are running the rear upper shock relocation bracket (http://www.polyperformance.com/shop...ar-Long-Travel-Upper-Shock-Mount-p-29226.html)

Have you noticed any change in ride quality etc... because the shocks now sit at a steeper angle?

I need to buy new rear shocks and was wondering if I should do this at the same time.

 

[axsys]

I don't have any experience with that bracket, but here is my opinion.

When using that bracket you should also use the lower relocation bracket. That should put your shocks back into a relatively stock-oriented position, so your ride quality shouldn't be affected much. On top of that, if you will be ordering new shocks, you would be able to run a longer shock and get more use out of your suspension.

 

[ALASHA]

I don't have any experience with that bracket, but here is my opinion.

When using that bracket you should also use the lower relocation bracket. That should put your shocks back into a relatively stock-oriented position, so your ride quality shouldn't be affected much. On top of that, if you will be ordering new shocks, you would be able to run a longer shock and get more use out of your suspension.

I already have lower shock relocation brackets installed when I did the Rock Krawler Long Arm.

Getting more travel is the game plan considering the current set up maxed out the shocks that I had.

 

[axsys]

I already have lower shock relocation brackets installed when I did the Rock Krawler Long Arm.

Getting more travel is the game plan considering the current set up maxed out the shocks that I had.

Well, looking at the pictures again I'm starting to think that it would not put your shocks closer to the stock angle. So, consider my previous post useless. :cwm13:

 

[TCdawg]

I run the upper and lower rear synergy shock brackets. I only had them on for a few weeks with limited miles before I then installed a set of the Nemesis front lower shock brackets(moves the lower bracket up an inch and out an inch).

Drove to Daytona from Atlanta last week for jeep beach and it felt like the jeep was noticeably smoother than it had been in the past. Same air pressure in the tires, same shocks, springs, etc. It could be my imagination but it just felt like the shocks were in a slightly better position to work their shock magic.

I didn't add any of the brackets for the "on road" ride quality. I added the rears to get the lower shock mount further from the ground and added the rear uppers because I didn't have any shock travel to give up. I added the lower fronts to allow the front shock to be in less of a bind in flex. The on rode ride quality has been a bonus.

 

[ALASHA]

Thanks TCDawg for the input.

 

[ALASHA]

TCDawg do the shocks look like they sit at a very steep angle now i.e. alot of pressure on the lower mounting?

 

[TCdawg]

Thanks TCDawg for the input.

No problem.

If the increased ride quality is just in my head, it definitely did not degrade the ride quality.

Also, you may have issues if you run the stock exhaust. The sway bar needs to move back, even more than if you moved it back for lift, and either the shock body or sway bar may be in conflict with the stock exhaust or an exhaust in the stock location. Mine is moved to a different location so not an issue for me.

 

[TCdawg]

TCDawg do the shocks look like they sit at a very steep angle now i.e. alot of pressure on the lower mounting?

The shocks are a little less upright than stock. I don't see any undue pressure on the lower mount.

I'll post some pics when I get home.

 

[ALASHA]

The shocks are a little less upright than stock. I don't see any undue pressure on the lower mount.

I'll post some pics when I get home.

That would be awesome. My exhaust is relocated as well so it isnt an issue.

 

[jvandy50]

How many inches total does the sway bar need to move back? Mines already been an inch with the RK lift, but like you said, that's not enough.


Vandy

 

[ALASHA]

Got a new problem. Went to the Bilstein site to look at lengths for the 5160s. My old shocks had about 10" of travel. The only other size longer has ~11.3" of travel.

With these brackets the additional 2" of upper room is more than what I am gaining by going to the longer shocks not to mention the additional room of moving the shock back.

So now I need to choose a longer shock :suicide:

 

[FireTrail741]

Got a new problem. Went to the Bilstein site to look at lengths for the 5160s. My old shocks had about 10" of travel. The only other size longer has ~11.3" of travel.

With these brackets the additional 2" of upper room is more than what I am gaining by going to the longer shocks not to mention the additional room of moving the shock back.

So now I need to choose a longer shock :suicide:

But you are doing the lowers too right? then you are netting more or am I confused.

 

[ALASHA]

Ok suspension experts please double check my logic:

All this started because I destroyed my current shocks doing carnage:
http://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92483

I have long arms so I am pretty sure I over extended the shocks. The game plan is to add spring retainers from Currie to keep them from popping out, and these relocations brackets which move the upper mount up 2" and back 2.5" nettting 3.2" of additional shock length based on the pythagorean thereom.

So with that said, I had a 10" travel rear shock. With this bracket, I can go to at least 13" rear travel (maybe 14") which just sounds insane given this is just 2.5" lift.

Am I calculating something wrong or missing something?

I plan to add correct bump stops to prevent over compression and limit straps to prevent over extension.

 

[ALASHA]

But you are doing the lowers too right? then you are netting more or am I confused.

Already had the lowers before all of this so the lower mounting position is fixed. We are just talking about the upper now and with long arms, the 10" travel shocks werent enough.

 

[TCdawg]

That would be awesome. My exhaust is relocated as well so it isnt an issue.

 

[TCdawg]

How many inches total does the sway bar need to move back? Mines already been an inch with the RK lift, but like you said, that's not enough.


Vandy

Another inch

 

[ChuckMRN]

Another satisfyed Synergy customer. I used their blocks to lower the sway bar mounts on mine to clear the shocks. I also used Synergy spring perch mounts on the axle housing to get the bend out of the spring after setting the pinion angle where I wanted it.

 

[ALASHA]

Ok time for some more math. My old shocks were 15" compressed and at ride height showed about 5" of shaft (insert jokes) so 5" of up travel and 5" of down travel. This gives me a total of ~20" of mounting point to mounting point on the shock at rest.

These brackets will give me an additional 3.2" of length as previously mentioned so now the length is 23.2".

With 13" travel Bilsteins, the collapsed length is 18" so at the same ride height I will show 5.2" of shaft again but I will now have 7.8" of down travel instead of the previous 5".

That sounds like ALOT of travel out of a 2.5" lift and will be more than the front set up.

Again anyone see any problems?

 

[TCdawg]

Ok time for some more math. My old shocks were 15" compressed and at ride height showed about 5" of shaft (insert jokes) so 5" of up travel and 5" of down travel. This gives me a total of ~20" of mounting point to mounting point on the shock at rest.

These brackets will give me an additional 3.2" of length as previously mentioned so now the length is 23.2".

With 13" travel Bilsteins, the collapsed length is 18" so at the same ride height I will show 5.2" of shaft again but I will now have 7.8" of down travel instead of the previous 5".

That sounds like ALOT of travel out of a 2.5" lift and will be more than the front set up.

Again anyone see any problems?

You will want to use limiting straps, even if you use spring retainers. With that down travel you may be pushing the limits of your brake line and ABS/speed sensor lines.

so the Bilstiens you are looking at have a compressed length of 18 and an extended length of 31? What model?

Your old shocks were 15 and 25?