30k or so miles later, I have mixed reviews. They are ok- not great in mud. Which is fine. They do very well in deep snow, great on rocks, good plus on loose dirt.
when it starts raining they lose grip on rocky and lose trails pretty quick. Here in the east we get trails covered with small boulders. It’s less moab style rock crawling. I’ve gone from being able to get over some crazy stuff to getting stuck when it gets wet. I suspect that other tires have the same issue, as there is just less traction to be had. I also get lazy about airing down because it takes forever with 40s. I have beadlocks, and I’d probably do better if I dropped down under 10psi. I’ve driven two hours home after wheeling at 13 psi with no issue because I didn’t want to sit on the ground in the rain for an hour filling them up.
deep water- they do begin to just barely start floating when you start getting water pouring in the cab and being glad you got that snorkel that everyone says you don’t need . . . They do just fine playing in the water and doing crossings. I’ve had them in 3 feet or more of water many times. In a current I would be worried they might start to float downstream much deeper than that (I wouldn’t attempt a fast moving current anywhere near that deep, it’s a bad idea).
I did drive out to Moab, pulling a camper. Wheeled there and drove home. Tires do great on that type of terrain. (6500 miles in 2 weeks).
my last time out (black and red trails in the rain) I did manage to lose a baseball size chunk of tread. No belt or anything showing, and I’ve been driving g around on it now for 5 months or more.
rain- it’s a 40x13.5r17. It will hydroplane if you go flying into a deep puddle at speed. Probably not as bad as the tires on my corvette. Barring that they have excellent road manners in the rain.
snow (on road). They’re pretty decent. No, they are not dedicated snow tires, but better than most all season or a/t tires.
road-dry Road handling is good enough for anything any halfway sane person should be doing with a jeep. Mine have seen over 100mph, pulled a trailer, etc.
noise- here is where the story gets interesting. My Jeep had some atzs on it when I got it, which were loud. The Patagonias were a major improvement- at first. By this point, my wife needs earplugs in my Jeep. The wore evenly side to side, but the lugs themselves have a strange wear pattern. I’ve heard these are very sensitive to psi. I have beadlocks, not supposed to run over 25 (Love when the shop sets them to 32). I set them at 28 or so when I set them. I used to try to stay in the 25-28 range. Now I drive them where they’re at unless they get below 15. At 6k pounds, my jeep is very heavy- for a jeep. These take 3195 lbs at 50 psi. Theoretically somewhere less than 25psi is probably right for my jeep. Your average 4,100 lb jku though would take a lot less air. Whatever the reason, my nice quiet tires got loud and angry.
after 30k or so miles I’m down to about 1/4 inch tread in the center, more on the sides. For road use they could probably go quite a while longer. At this point though, an ok mud tire is probably less ok than it was, so I’m looking to upgrade.
they’ve done me well, but I will probably try something different. Although price has become more of an issue. 40+ inch tires have nearly doubled in price since I got these in 2019.
I see there is a second generation of these, and even rumored to come in a 42. I’m curious to see how they have improved
Bottom line, if you can deal with the noise and don’t spend most of your time in a mud bog, they’re pretty good tires.
