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As I found out last night.

Where I live, we are pretty starved for nice off road spots outside of construction sites and illegal fields/trails. That said, my craving for off road driving is high and is rarely sated. Now, not far from my house, is a large dirt parking lot that may as well be called a minor trail. It is bumpy, full of fairly deep holes and ruts, has a few hill-ish areas, and one 4 or so car length trench.

Anyway, last night on my way to pick up dinner for the wife and myself, I swung in there to do a few laps because it was raining and my Jeep was just too clean. Well, unlike most of my passes through this lot, I decided to brave the trench at the far end. I gave it a good look over before driving in, and from inside the Jeep looking down, it didn't look any deeper than maybe half of my stock tires. Screw it I say, and I start moving in...

I get about 5 feet into the trench and all is well, ladida... When all of a sudden... SPLOOOSH.... My left front drops down into the water above my bumper. Mind you, I am still running the stock (X with the S package stock anyway) 17" wheels and tires, with no lifting yet, so it wasn't THAT deep, but it still made my heart pound, especially with the suddenness of it. Hell, I wasn't even in 4WD because it was a PARKING LOT!

Anyway, I just popped into reverse and backed out. Being alone at 9pm on a rainy Thursday night, I just didn't want to take the chance of getting stuck, despite the fact that I more than likely could have plowed on through. Not to mention, that would have been stupidly embarrassing...

Anyway, just because it is a trench in a dirt parking lot, doesn't mean it isn't deep! Always check your depth before crossing/driving in unknown mudholes and trenches! lol :blush2: :laughing:

Oh, backing out of the water also pulled my front, plastic skid plate loose and left it hanging. Good thing they designed it to break away and not actually break, so I just snapped the straps back in and was good to go...

Fun stuff for a parking lot, lol.
 

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Wow... just... wow...

What exactly is going on in that picture? I mean, it doesn't even look like it would be possible for him to sink that deep in that particular spot. That's just crazy.
 

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I keep telling people wheeling at the mall is dangerous.

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Never under estimate the parking lot .... *** Not Me ***

It's guys like this - and the OP - that give off-roaders a bad name and contribute, significantly, to the Greenies' cause to close trails nation-wide. The picture above constitutes a crime. The guy driving the Jeep is damaging private or public property. At a minimum that's a ticket and fine.

I thought I could keep my mouth shut, but "off-roading" in dirt parking lots, shopping center medians and other private (not owned by you) and public property is illegal and it ISN'T off-roading. You're breaking the law and showing the world what a bunch of a$$holes off-roaders are.

Thanks! :pissed:
 

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Ditto

and let me add, Grow up.

Running around in areas you aren't suppose to be isn't wheeling.

Tearing up mud in a dirt parking lot isn't wheeling.

the OPs "craving" for off-road driving is killing access for every other "real" wheeler across the country.

If you don't have respect for the property that is not yours and is not open to legal wheeling, then show some respect for those that are the responsible wheelers you are trying to pretend to be associated with and find something else to do with your time.
 

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What the hell are your problems?

It was supposed to be a funny story... I'm sorry, but I don't have immediate access to trails and rock gardens, nor do I have the money to invest into my brand new vehicle to make it able to go to such extreme places.

Sorry for giving you a "bad name" you over-bearing, judgmental moron. I didn't go over a curb and into a grass/dirt island like in that picture. I was in a PUBLIC DIRT PARKING LOT. It is full of holes, mud puddles, a trench, and some hills. How they hell was I giving anyone a bad name?

It wasn't private property.

I didn't destroy anything.

I was driving around at 10-15 mph enjoying the rough terrain.

Where do you get off judging me because I decided to have fun in a parking lot when it was muddy? Who are you to lay down hate on me for telling a story that was supposed to be funny?

If I had the money to mod my jeep to heavy levels and the time to travel 5-6 hours away to the nearest, "real" trails I would. For now, I make due with what I have, and try to have fun. I don't litter, I don't destroy anything, and I don't go on private property and tear it up giving "you" a bad name.

Now, kindly, go f*ck yourselves and your high horses. Damn, I thought this was a friendly, decent community...
 

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I would find it hard to resist a beat up, muddy, parking lot puddle too. The OP didn't tear anything up... he went into a mud puddle that was deeper than it looked.

Now, the guy in the photo is being a jackass, but they are not the same guy.


That's just how I read the post. YMMV.

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Should have gotten it on Utube
 

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What the hell are your problems?

It was supposed to be a funny story... I'm sorry, but I don't have immediate access to trails and rock gardens, nor do I have the money to invest into my brand new vehicle to make it able to go to such extreme places.

Sorry for giving you a "bad name" you over-bearing, judgmental moron. I didn't go over a curb and into a grass/dirt island like in that picture. I was in a PUBLIC DIRT PARKING LOT. It is full of holes, mud puddles, a trench, and some hills. How they hell was I giving anyone a bad name?

It wasn't private property.

I didn't destroy anything.

I was driving around at 10-15 mph enjoying the rough terrain.

Where do you get off judging me because I decided to have fun in a parking lot when it was muddy? Who are you to lay down hate on me for telling a story that was supposed to be funny?

If I had the money to mod my jeep to heavy levels and the time to travel 5-6 hours away to the nearest, "real" trails I would. For now, I make due with what I have, and try to have fun. I don't litter, I don't destroy anything, and I don't go on private property and tear it up giving "you" a bad name.

Now, kindly, go f*ck yourselves and your high horses. Damn, I thought this was a friendly, decent community...
tard

If you don't have time or money to do what you want, you don't go tearing some property you don't own nor have permission to be on.

you are a turd, and a blight on what we do. I hope your disrespect costs you like it's costing many others who do the same stupid stuff. I just hope it doesn't cost those of us who are responsible and respectful.

I judge you because you are moron that effects everyone who cares about our sport
 

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I would find it hard to resist a beat up, muddy, parking lot puddle too. The OP didn't tear anything up... he went into a mud puddle that was deeper than it looked.

Now, the guy in the photo is being a jackass, but they are not the same guy.


That's just how I read the post. YMMV.

Cheers,
Duffy
If it's not your property and you don't have permission, you resist, period.

Just because someone parks there, gives you no right to tear up the property. If you don't get that part, then sell your Jeep and don't muck it up for those who are responsible.

Quite frankly, I will and have reported idiots like this because of it's effect. We have enough trouble fighting to keep access to trails without childish idiots defining the stereotype of an off-roader as someone who thinks they can just drive anywhere they please
 

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What is your deal man? Seriously!

It was a public PARKING LOT made out of dirt. I don't understand why you are giving me such a freaking hard time. I am NOT the guy in that picture, I would NEVER do that. I have also said that I do NOT ride on private property that is owned by another person, company, or whatever else.

I don't know if you are just plain stupid, or you just enjoy being a prick, but try and understand these three words.... PUBLIC. PARKING. LOT.

It just happens to be made out of dirt and has holes/ruts everywhere that are fun to bounce around in when it is muddy. For Christ's sake, I wasn't even doing over 15 miles an hour, doing donuts, running up on grass, or anything like that.

I just don't get what your deal is boss.
 

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What is your deal man? Seriously!

It was a public PARKING LOT made out of dirt. I don't understand why you are giving me such a freaking hard time. I am NOT the guy in that picture, I would NEVER do that. I have also said that I do NOT ride on private property that is owned by another person, company, or whatever else.

I don't know if you are just plain stupid, or you just enjoy being a prick, but try and understand these three words.... PUBLIC. PARKING. LOT.

It just happens to be made out of dirt and has holes/ruts everywhere that are fun to bounce around in when it is muddy. For Christ's sake, I wasn't even doing over 15 miles an hour, doing donuts, running up on grass, or anything like that.

I just don't get what your deal is boss.
My "deal" is that you are a f'ing moron

why not take a tractor and tear up a paved parking lot? I mean it's public and all, so that must mean you can do anything you want. Hell, screw respecting anything that's not "private" or not yours.
 

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If it's not your property and you don't have permission, you resist, period.

Just because someone parks there, gives you no right to tear up the property. If you don't get that part, then sell your Jeep and don't muck it up for those who are responsible.

Quite frankly, I will and have reported idiots like this because of it's effect. We have enough trouble fighting to keep access to trails without childish idiots defining the stereotype of an off-roader as someone who thinks they can just drive anywhere they please

Seriously? No, Really?

Have you never driven down a dirt road and aimed for a puddle? Never? In a public parking lot, when raining, it would be near impossible to NOT drive through a mud puddle. I'm sorry if the OP nearly enjoyed it, save for the fact that the puddle was unexpectedly deep.
You are kidding... aren't you? If not, please feel free to report me, and anyone else driving on dirt in the rain on a public way.
I'm not angry, just a little amazed.
 

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My "deal" is that you are a f'ing moron

why not take a tractor and tear up a paved parking lot? I mean it's public and all, so that must mean you can do anything you want. Hell, screw respecting anything that's not "private" or not yours.
Alright, thank you, you have answered the question. You are both stupid and just enjoy being a prick. Have a nice day.
 

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Alright, thank you, you have answered the question. You are both stupid and just enjoy being a prick. Have a nice day.
go educate yourself on land use issues and if you still feel the same way....

sell the f'cking Jeep and go buy a clue
 

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I think we should find out this guys info and forward it to the owners of that parking lot and see what they think..hmmm I wonder just how much it is going to cost to fix the **** he tore up, i bet he changes his its just a parking lot attitude..:pissed:
 
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