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Look how many vendor forums there are!?!? And the amount of re-sellers pushing product in threads is way out of hand. Thinking this website has become more of a marketplace than a enthusiast forum. And why is there no blue star program here on JKO? Are the plethora of vendors/re-sellers pitching in 10 bucks per user to the BRC ??

This isn't a rant against the users, vendors, and re-sellers, it is straight up a question for JKO management.
 

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Look how many vendor forums there are!?!? And the amount of re-sellers pushing product in threads is way out of hand. Thinking this website has become more of a marketplace than a enthusiast forum. And why is there no blue star program here on JKO? Are the plethora of vendors/re-sellers pitching in 10 bucks per user to the BRC ??

This isn't a rant against the users, vendors, and re-sellers, it is straight up a question for JKO management.


JKF ...not even close. There's definitely been some downsides since ownership was transferred, but this place is nothing like that ass factory.
 

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Vendors are great. One of the reasons I read this forum is to get good upgrade ideas and learn about new products. If they support the forum and throw out some good forum-only deals from time to time I don't see the problem.
 

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I see what the op is saying when it comes to force product presence, which was my biggest gripe with JKfoum.

What I mean is someone ask a question about a recommendation, or an issue, and rather than address the question with a tech response(and maybe help someone else from asking the same fucking question), more and more manufacturers are trying to push their product as the fix, without explaining why.

That's what I find fucked up.
 

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Some yes some no. I asked about raceline monsters and Marcus gave me good advice on which rock ring to go with which tire. Didn't try to sell me anything. It is pretty clear which vendors to stay away from and which are actually willing to help.
 

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Some yes some no. I asked about raceline monsters and Marcus gave me good advice on which rock ring to go with which tire. Didn't try to sell me anything. It is pretty clear which vendors to stay away from and which are actually willing to help.
Agreed, some venders know how to sell parts without "selling" it. I just find it annoying if I ask a tech question and I'm answered with a part name, not why I'm having my issue.
 

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If there were 1 vendor fourm, I'd be more likely to visit it. I'm not going to go into each forum to see what's going on. Band together and get more visibilty!!
 

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I thought there was less from the vendors lately as they all try pushing you towards Facebook. Where they can all go fuck themselves. I waste enough time on forums, I don't need that waste of life also.
 

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I see where everybody's coming from as well. A vendors forum would be a great idea, with a general section where users can ask questions about products and get answers.

Maybe the vendors who haven't logged in or participated in a while should be sent a notice that they'll be booted from the forum for lack of activity --- talking about the big guys that rarely give any input.

Maybe throw a poll up to see what vendors should stay and which should go.

Many vendors don't provide jack-shit for assistance, help or the like. There are a few that I have interacted with who are excellent with providing help and info.

Another thing is vendors stomping on other vendors threads...pretty shitty.
 

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I see where everybody's coming from as well. A vendors forum would be a great idea, with a general section where users can ask questions about products and get answers.

Maybe the vendors who haven't logged in or participated in a while should be sent a notice that they'll be booted from the forum for lack of activity --- talking about the big guys that rarely give any input.

Maybe throw a poll up to see what vendors should stay and which should go.

Many vendors don't provide jack-shit for assistance, help or the like. There are a few that I have interacted with who are excellent with providing help and info.

Another thing is vendors stomping on other vendors threads...pretty shitty.
If a vendor wants to pay JKO and not participate, I'm okay with that.

When they do participate they should just be respectful of "us" and the other vendors.

if you're going to contribute, contribute. Don't just post a link to your product and then bounce.
 

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I don't like that I have to be honest and say that it has me concerned also..

but I have yet to see anything severely affected yet, besides that there is so much more vendor activity here now then there used to be.

If I hear of any complaints or see anything that is "vendors stepping on toes" or "aggressively competing ( unsolicited) for someone's business", than I ABSOLUTELY want to be notified so that ADMIN is aware.

Regardless of the influx of advertisers here, I expect all members to be treated with respect from ALL our vendors....big and small/ new and old.

The flip side of the negatives are that having vendors here puts them in direct contact with YOU... the buyers. They will ( as they always have) be held accountable publicly when mistakes are made, when a product fails, or if there are questionable business practices involved.... until/ unless that ever changes.

So how in the HELL is any of this like JKF??

Laughable..

Anyway... always let me know ( since there's NO way I can scan every post on this forum every day) and I'll try to make sure to keep everyone playing fairly.
 

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Look how many vendor forums there are!?!? And the amount of re-sellers pushing product in threads is way out of hand. Thinking this website has become more of a marketplace than a enthusiast forum. And why is there no blue star program here on JKO? Are the plethora of vendors/re-sellers pitching in 10 bucks per user to the BRC ??

This isn't a rant against the users, vendors, and re-sellers, it is straight up a question for JKO management.
Trying to curb that a bit.. also trying to get plethora of vendor forum moved to the bottom of the page as it is a distration IMO and most of them arent even utilized... so I feel you on some of this.

The Blue star program was put in place at Pirate before it was transferred so that's why it is still in place there.. We are still trying to get that implemented here.

Vendors should not be trying to "sell" in tech threads.

We are FAR FAR FAR from being JKF and as long as I have anything to do with JKO those kind of restrictions will never exist here.

We are like no one else.. We are JKO, and I appreciate the feedback but I don't have the keys to everything here so I will do what I can and kick the rest upstairs. Some of this is already in the works.

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This isn't a rant against the users, vendors, and re-sellers, it is straight up a question for JKO management.[/QUOTE]

If a vendor wants to pay JKO and not participate, I'm okay with that.

When they do participate they should just be respectful of "us" and the other vendors.

if you're going to contribute, contribute. Don't just post a link to your product and then bounce.
x2 and who would want to vote off vendors for not participating enough? lol

I haven't been paying a lot of attention lately but vendors hit-and-run or spamming tech definitely isn't the norm for JKO. There are a lot of good people here and several started as enthusiasts just like us so sometimes there may be a learning curve on how to interact in threads. But I haven't noticed any malicious aggressive product pushing.

So how in the HELL is any of this like JKF??

Laughable..
QFT

 

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To be honest: I hid the vendors section a long time ago. And haven't really looked at it since. And I have no plans to, unless I will be looking for something specific in the future. It was populated with a few vendors that I don't think contribute anything usefull to the site. But, if they wanna pay to be a vendor here, who am I to stop them?

I am glad that they are here, $upporting the site. If this site weren't making money, I highly doubt that the current powers-that-be would keep it running.

There have been a couple of cases of Near-Mulletness since the new regime came to power. But, it is not anything near JKF status. And I certainly hope it never will be.



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After reading most of the rror skid vs. stock mess....
Nope! Even if a few threads seem obnoxious, there is still enough tech and open info to set this site higher.
 
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