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Does anyone know of a company that makes frame mounted rocker protection with a decent step?

The Evo's look awesome but the round tube and angle doesn't really provide the best step.

Body mounted options like PSC, Nemesis, Crawler Conceptz, provide a really nice flat step surface but I'm not sure if they will hold up to serious hits without deforming the thin body :(

If anyone knows of a frame mounted slider with a flat step surface please let me know.

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Check out White Knuckle Offroad Products. Great product, large step so small kids and the wife with heels on can get up and in the JK. Very durable! Can be just the tube, or add the diamond plate top (I did).

http://white-knuckleoffroad.com/jeepjk.htm

Hope this helps.
They look pretty good, but pretty rough finish.
Price is decent at $640 shipped for the DOM version with diamond plate.
I can't seem to find any shots showing how they mount underneath though :(

The EVO ones are a 45 degree angle from the factory. we can also have them made in a 22.5 degree angle to improve the ability to be used as a step. Check them out.

http://www.northridge4x4.com/evo-manufacturing-jk-2-door-rock-sliders-raw-low-angle-step-evo1048-2d-step

http://www.northridge4x4.com/evo-manufacturing-jk-4-door-rock-sliders-raw-low-angle-step-evo1048-4d-step
Didn't realise they had a lower angle version. That's cool, but still doesn't quite cut it as a flat step. I'm trying to find something that my dog can use to get in and out of the jeep. haha :)

Have you looked at the LOD sliders / rocker guards?
Hmm, they look pretty good actually. the dimples look a little sharp but I'm sure they could be flattened out :)

We also offer ours as a builders kit so that the end user can place them at any angle they'd like.

http://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90307
Thanks for letting me know, I'll certainly keep them in mind.
It looks like I could set them up and then add a flat section between the tube.
 

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I have LOD and they are great
 

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Poison Spyder Rock Brawlers:

Strong, very strong. The nut inserts can be a PIA. The step is great (use it all the time, as does my bride/passenger) and I've beat and gouged them and I just hit them with some rattle can black.

http://shop.poisonspyder.com/Jeep-JK-4-Door-Brawler-Rockers-Steel-p/18-08-200.htm
They look pretty good, although I'm wary of body mounted sliders taking big hits

I have LOD and they are great
These are definitely in my top 3, and may even be exactly what I'm after :)

Our RPMFAB Sliders are frame mount weld on DOM I use mine as a step all the time. We set them at a 35 degree angle
Thanks for that, I'll check them out :)

FullMetalFabworks offers their sliders in a high clearance and a step version. They are also a vendor on here and there are more pics in their new product news thread.

http://www.fullmetalfabworks.com/#!rocker-protection/c14u4


Edit: I know you said frame mounted, which these are not. But they're also not the usual body mounted slider either.
I actually like the look of these and the mounting is pretty different. I posted into their thread on here asking for some more updates on durability.

I believe that PSC has a kit that you can weld onto factory rubi rails that includes a step.
The rubi rails are going...I've heard too many stories about them sucking, and after taking them off to trim them I can see why
 

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I also have Lods. The dimple die holes in the steps are not sharp, they're for traction. I actually had mine custom made by them to have the step all the way across the top, not just in front of the doors. I researched the crap out of sliders and they have met my needs so far.I have only had them for a short while and to me, their is no better test then the test of time. I have NOT had a chance to beat the crap out of them on the rocks yet, but I will. That will be the true testament. I liked the solid mounts, ease of installation, looks, and they are tight to the body but, the step works great.
 

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I actually like the look of these and the mounting is pretty different. I posted into their thread on here asking for some more updates on durability.
Yea I'd like to hear more as well. They are on the top of my list. I like the high clearance they provide. They look tucked up a lot higher than the frame mounted sliders.
 

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I have seen body mounted rockers take quite a beating on TJs. The guys that ran them told me that a hit on the outboard end of frame mounted rockers caused the mount to act as a fulcrum and push the armor up into the body, defeating their purpose. I have yet to actually see this happen though. I get the feeling that frame vs body is a holy war in the vein of PC vs Mac or Ford vs Chevy. If you get well built rockers and install them correctly I think either mount will perform well.
 

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I have seen body mounted rockers take quite a beating on TJs. The guys that ran them told me that a hit on the outboard end of frame mounted rockers caused the mount to act as a fulcrum and push the armor up into the body, defeating their purpose. I have yet to actually see this happen though. I get the feeling that frame vs body is a holy war in the vein of PC vs Mac or Ford vs Chevy. If you get well built rockers and install them correctly I think either mount will perform well.
If you're planning on really using your rocker armor do not do body mounted on a JK, the tub is not nearly as strong as a TJ tub was in that area. My tub is pushed in on both sides from running body mounted armor. Have since switched to frame mounted weld on sliders to prevent further damage. And this is on a 2door, on a 4 door forget it, don't even think about tub mounted.
 

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If you're planning on really using your rocker armor do not do body mounted on a JK, the tub is not nearly as strong as a TJ tub was in that area. My tub is pushed in on both sides from running body mounted armor. Have since switched to frame mounted weld on sliders to prevent further damage. And this is on a 2door, on a 4 door forget it, don't even think about tub mounted.
Would you care to share the armor you were running that failed you? I ask because tub mounted armor works fantastic for people who really use their armor provided it is designed and installed correctly. Sorry your choice didnt work out for you sucks to buy a product that fails.
 
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