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Edelbrock Shocks for JK's lengths

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I put this together to respond to a pm, and I thought everyone might want access to it.

Edelbrock JK shock Applications.

Performer IAS (Monotube, ½” rod, red powdercoat, stock height)
Front: 33418 Extended: 22.03” Collapsed: 14.08” Stroke 7.95”
Rear: 34418 Extended: 22.75” Collapsed: 14.65” Stroke 8.10”

Xtreme IAS (Monotube, 5/8” rod, brushed zinc finish with clearcoat,3” lift)
Front: 63523 Extended: 24.41” Collapsed: 15.32” Stroke 9.09”
Rear: 64523 Extended: 25.48” Collapsed: 16.09” Stroke 9.39”

Xtreme Travel IAS (Remote Reservoir, 5/8” rod, brushed zinc finish with clearcoat, 3” lift)
Front: 63523 Extended: 25.81” Collapsed: 15.32” Stroke 10.49”
Rear: 64523 Extended: 26.83” Collapsed: 16.09” Stroke 10.74”
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Good info.

As the stock armed JK needs ~27" of shock travel to take advantage of the stock flex, all of the above shocks are too short to take full advantage of a stock JK's travel.

By stock travel, I mean what you'd get by merely making sure you have slack on the brake lines and wires, etc, but not adding mods, etc.

If a lift is installed, and more travel than stock became available, the deficiency would be even more limiting.

I guess Edelbrocks are out of contention unless they have other options not listed above.

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27" extended shock on a stock JK? How much are you limiting up travel to prevent shock damage?
My rancho's are 30" extended.
What are they collapsed? How long are your bumpstop extensions?
What are they collapsed? How long are your bumpstop extensions?
I'd have to go measure the bump stops, they came with the currie kit. They are for 37's so I assume they are 4".

The shock has 11" of travel
I'd have to go measure the bump stops, they came with the currie kit. They are for 37's so I assume they are 4".

The shock has 11" of travel
Interesting. The Superlift extensions on the vehicle we used for development were much smaller. It appears from photo's that they a slightly longer foam unit in the kit.
Based upon taking the JK and gradually flexing it, it looks like, w/o extended bumpstops, the compressed limit is roughly 16" eye to eye.

If you then droop it, and unclip the wires and lines that go taut, you can make the mounts for the shocks ~ 27" apart.

The stock shocks only go to ~ 22" extended, 14.5" compressed (~ 7.5" of travel).

IE: A shock that would allow the disco'd JK with stock arms, etc...to flex as far as they go, would compress to 16", and extend to 27" (11" of travel).

Obviously, compressing shorter, and extending longer, would also work, leave room for improvements/buffer zone for individual JK variations, etc.

As simply adding coils or spacers, etc...would NOT add to the droop, merely PRE-DROOP the suspension...and adding bumpstop extensions would merely ROB UPTRAVEL....

...new arms with more range of motion would therefore be required to take advantage of shocks longer than 27".

The amount of lift in of itself will not affect that.

If the shocks cannot compress to 16", then stop extensions might be needed to avoid over-compression, etc.

I'd rather see a BL/fender mods, than stop extensions, IF JUST to avoid larger tires/fender hits though.

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The stock shocks only go to ~ 22" extended, 14.5" compressed (~ 7.5" of travel).
OEM lengths:
Front: 22.0 x 14.13
Rear: 22.6 x 14.75
OEM lengths:
Front: 22.0 x 14.13
Rear: 22.6 x 14.75
Thanks!

Now I can get rid of the ~

:D

So - that is correct, the stock shocks currently limit articulation on the stock JK, as they only extend to about 22" (22.0 Front, and 22.6" for the rear).

The stocks compress to about 14.5" (14.13" F/14.75" R)...but, if you compress the JK, the mounts only get to about 16".

(Hey, throw in the decimal points while you're at it...all data is good data :D )

That means we can maximize travel by taking advantage of the ~ 16" compression range, allowing more shock body for a longer travel after market shock. The 16" - 27" range is not that hard to spec either.

What I also need, as I have not done the math/dynamics yet...are what the rebound and compression ranges should be....as lengths are good for fitment, but, the valving makes it work or not as far as performance goes.

That's harder, as heavier tires and axles, specific spring rates and roll centers, etc...are going to make the "correct valving" a crap shoot for a general after market application. (A lot easier to set up one race rig with known variables, than to guess what unknown people MIGHT be running...)

:D

I typically bide my time, and pack my own shocks. Its the best way for me to get what I want.

The JK's a DD....so, I can mess with it as convenient.

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Hey - You have Edelbrock data - Any other shocks you have data for?

It would be a great resource for people to cross reference what's out there!

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Hey - You have Edelbrock data - Any other shocks you have data for?
I'll see what I can scrounge up. That is the stuff I am completely at liberty to release.
I can throw in the lengths of the Teraflex JK shocks:

3"-4" fronts: 16.51"-26.89"
3"-4" rears: 17.25"-28.09"
6" fronts: 18.52"-30.89"
6" rears: 19.25"-32.09"

I don't have valving data for them, but that's something I'd find interesting, to be able to compare valving between many different brands.
Good thread...I can see this evolving into a great sticky.

:D
This is quoted from a post on Jksociety.com so I can not say how accurate it is but it is from a good source so should be correct

jksociety.com said:
Here are the different JK shocks Rubicon Express offers. These are built by Bilstein and tuned specific for RE.

RXJ711 = 28.25 – 17.25 stem to loop configuration

RXJ712 = 27.375 – 16.875 loop to loop configuration

RXJ713 = 25.125 - 15.25 stem to loop configuration

RXJ714 = 24.875 - 15.0 loop to loop configuration
anyone have bilstein or pro comp numbers?
I have a simple spread sheet I made with several makes, including Bils.

I do not know how to post an Excel spread sheet though.

Typically, when I try, it just jumbles everything together into one long indecipherable mess.

Anyone have any tips on how to post a SS?

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you could take a screenshot of it, then post that image. you could host the file on a server somewhere, then post a link that would take you to the spreadsheet to download it.

if you can't get it to work, e-mail it to me and i'll try to do it for you.
you could take a screenshot of it, then post that image. you could host the file on a server somewhere, then post a link that would take you to the spreadsheet to download it.

if you can't get it to work, e-mail it to me and i'll try to do it for you.
Damn, might be easier to re-type the entire thing.

:bounce:

I'll see what I can do.

:D
OK, here goes:



:D

I can update it, and then upload the new pics, etc.
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I'm interested in the Fox measures and also the blisten shocks.
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