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The JK is associated with a lot of words, but powerful isn't one of them. Especially when you put 42" tires, and weigh it down with steel bumpers, bigger axles, etc. The 3.8 and 3.6 simply don't have what it takes to effectively move that much steel and rubber down the road. Sure you could throw on forced induction like a supercharger, but for the expense you might as well swap in a bigger motor.

Why not go diesel?

Of course you see cummins swaps in JK's, but rarely do you see a Duramax swap. The Duramax is a great choice. Its a extremely reliable, powerful, fuel efficient, and a common engine to source. These reasons alone gives it great appeal. But paired with the Allison transmission is really what sets it apart from other Diesel Engines.

A group of engineers that i'm associated with has successfully swapped in a Duramax Turbo Diesel, with accompanying Allison Transmission in to a JK Wrangler.

*The Engine, Allison Transmission, Tcase, and rear axle are out of a 2004 Chevy Silverado. The engine is stock with the exception of a Airdog lift pump, 4" down pipe, and a 5 stage tune controller.

*The front axle is a Dana 60 with upgraded shafts.

*ARB lockers front and rear

*Custom long arm suspension that stretched the wheel base about 6". Rear is a 4 link. Front is a 3 link + Panhead bar.

*Hydraulic assist steering, with 2 speed anti-sway bar on front.

*42" tires

*Poison spider armor and fenders.

42” tires is the “why” behind putting a Duramax in a JK. 42” make it easy to roll up big rocks, yet on the street it is unbelievably peppy. It is surprisingly good on the trail and the street. When they were building it I thought it would be a nice circus freak for SEMA, but after driving and taking it offroad, I couldn’t believe how well-mannered it is on street and how capable off road it was. You don't notice the extra weight of the engine. It performs absolutely flawlessly, and puts a grin on your face every time you get behind the wheel. The power is refined, yet it doesn't ever seem to run out of it.

Because of how great this swap ended up, my engineering associates are considering developing a Duramax swap kit. They are just trying to gauge what kind of interest there would be.

So, what are your thoughts?
 

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Sure you could throw on forced induction like a supercharger, but for the expense you might as well swap in a bigger motor.
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I couldn’t believe how well-mannered it is on street and how capable off road it was. You don't notice the extra weight of the engine.
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They are just trying to gauge what kind of interest there would be.

So, what are your thoughts?
As asked, how does it integrate? Christmas tree dash?

What cost are you looking at? My supercharger on my 3.6 cost me 4K installed and pushes my 41.5s just fine. More is always better but the whole 'for the cost' argument isn't valid if it's 4K versus 20k.

How much weight does it add? Did you hit any large rocks with it? I'd be concerned with my use, that's a lot more weight I've gotta coax up and over rocks.
 

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I want to see how you fit a radiator that can cool the engine, and the intercooler, and the AC condenser, and the power steering cooler, and the engine oil cooler, and the trans cooler.

I just helped a buddy swap a new radiator in a F250 w/power stroke yesterday and I have to say that radiator was bigger than the entire frontend of a JK.

At 835lbs for the engine alone, you didn't do your COG any good.

Not saying it can't be done, anything can fit in anything with enough sawzall blades. But that's a really fat chick going in a really skinny dress.

I hope you pulled it off cleanly and would love to see pictures.
 

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That sounds awesome! I'm a Diesel fan an the Max is one of the best. This will be fun to see how it plays out. I already have a V8 in mine so I'm set.
 

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*The Engine, Allison Transmission, Tcase, and rear axle are out of a 2004 Chevy Silverado. The engine is stock with the exception of a Airdog lift pump, 4" down pipe, and a 5 stage tune controller.
so an LB7 motor?
 

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I'm excited to see this swap! LS kits have become real user friendly over the years for the DIYer in the garage and the cost isn't bad either. So I wanta see how the Diesel swap compares in price and user friendliness.
 
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I would like to see this also. if its a doable swap we may be interested in helping you get the CANbus working on the Jeep-GM side.
Its just such a massive engine and makes huge torque, I'm wondering if the stock frame will handle it.


I was kicking around the idea of a 3.0 Mercedes CDI diesel.
 

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I would like to see this also. if its a doable swap we may be interested in helping you get the CANbus working on the Jeep-GM side.
Its just such a massive engine and makes huge torque, I'm wondering if the stock frame will handle it.


I was kicking around the idea of a 3.0 Mercedes CDI diesel.
I know Duraburb won't put a Dmax motor in a 1500 suburban due to the torque issue. They will only use the 2500
 

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How integrated is it into the JK? Is it on a factory level or did you have to fab up an instrument cluster and everything else?
The instrument cluster is custom with a mix of analog and digital instrumentation.

As asked, how does it integrate? Christmas tree dash?

What cost are you looking at? My supercharger on my 3.6 cost me 4K installed and pushes my 41.5s just fine. More is always better but the whole 'for the cost' argument isn't valid if it's 4K versus 20k.

How much weight does it add? Did you hit any large rocks with it? I'd be concerned with my use, that's a lot more weight I've gotta coax up and over rocks.
The overall cost is something we don't have a definitive number on yet.

It does add a few hundred extra pounds, but you honestly don't even notice it. The Duramax has so much low end torque that it makes crawling effortless. It has been rock crawling in Moab and the results have been impressive.

I want to see how you fit a radiator that can cool the engine, and the intercooler, and the AC condenser, and the power steering cooler, and the engine oil cooler, and the trans cooler.

I just helped a buddy swap a new radiator in a F250 w/power stroke yesterday and I have to say that radiator was bigger than the entire frontend of a JK.

At 835lbs for the engine alone, you didn't do your COG any good.

Not saying it can't be done, anything can fit in anything with enough sawzall blades. But that's a really fat chick going in a really skinny dress.

I hope you pulled it off cleanly and would love to see pictures.
I will upload pictures as soon as possible, the forum won't let me due to not having 25 posts yet on this account. Some minor cutting did need to happen, but not as much as you would think. The Duramax doesn't a whole lot different under the hood then LS motor or hemi. Its snug, but clean.


That sounds awesome! I'm a Diesel fan an the Max is one of the best. This will be fun to see how it plays out. I already have a V8 in mine so I'm set.
Agreed! The Duramax is a great engine in the diesel world. That matched with a JK is a beautiful combination!

so an LB7 motor?
It's a LLY motor

I'm excited to see this swap! LS kits have become real user friendly over the years for the DIYer in the garage and the cost isn't bad either. So I wanta see how the Diesel swap compares in price and user friendliness.
Our goal is to bring a kit to the market that a DIY individual comfortable with tackling a engine swap consisting of some minor cutting and welding can accomplish. Its no harder than swapping in a LS motor, there is just a few extra steps to complete.
 

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Check out This will show you how to add some pics.
I am wondering if the OP didn't see my recommendation on the photo posting issue? @duramaxdieseljk , you have Flickr or Imgur ? We needs images...:|
using a photograph hosting site such as Flickr , Photobucket or Imgur is an acceptable means of providing a linking URL to the image repository, fwiw. :jeep2:

The forum won't let me post pictures because I don't have enough "posts" on this account. I will post pictures as soon as the forum lets me.
 
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