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I took my Jeep in for a couple warrantee items, and an oil change. It's coming up on two years old, and only 18k miles on it. The dealer called to let me know that it's past it's 15k mile scheduled service, which requires differential fluid change ($180!); it's yearly fuel system check-up, which requires a new fuel filter, and cleaning the throttle body ($120); and servicing the tires with nitrogen ($40). I thanked him for the heads-up, and declined the service.

Has anyone else heard of this from their dealers? Every 5th oil change you should flush the differentials, which means the oil change will cost you over $200!?

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its funny I got the same call stating I was due for my 15K (comming from the same people that say my oil change is due every 3K) I informed them that the manual said oil change every 5K and there was no 15K service, there is an 18K where the diff levels are "checked". Ill go find my manual and see what else it says but check yours too. Seems sad the dealer doesnt even know what the manual states as far as maint intervals.
 

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my understanding is if you skip the scheduled service you could lose your lifetime drivetrain warranty. I am not 100% sure though
 

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the warranty manual is pretty vague about this one


Page 22 3.8 "Your warranties can also be restricted by Chrysler. Chrysler may restrict the warranty on your vehicle if the vehicle is not properly maintained, or if the vehicle is abused or neglected, and the abuse or neglect interferes with the proper functioning of the vehicle. If the warranty is restricted, coverage may be denied or subject to approval by Chrysler before covered repairs are performed"


page 47 9.2 "Chrysler recommends that you return to the dealer from whom you bought your vehicle for all maintenance service both during and after the warranty periods. Although you can get warranty service from any dealer who sells your particular make, returning to your selling dealer will help ensure that all your service needs are met and that you're (read we're) completely satisfied. . . . . .

Doesn't flat out say that all the maintenance HAS to be done at the dealers, definatly open to interpretation.

The 18K maintenance says:

Change engine oil and engine oil filter
rotate tires
inspect brake lines and hoses
check manual transmission fluid level
inspect front and rear axel fluid**

**Change IF using for police, taxi, fleet, off-road or frequent trailer towing
 

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When you do your own service,diffs included,keep a record of the mileage you did it at as well as the reciept for the materials used.Staple them together and keep it in a folder.Should questions arise for possible lack of maint,pull out the folder with all the proof required. :smokin:
 

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the only one Im missing for is the 12K, but at 13K I got a new engine put in by the dealer so I hope they have that on their records, if not I have to go reciept diggin. Prety sure I got oil, filter (oil and air) and diff fluid replaced tho. I wonder if they'll make me change the diff fluid again in 200 miles when I hit my 18K :(
 

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here is two things that happened to me that I thought was funny...

when I had my engine replaced, I was charged for 3 things
parts, labor and an oil change, lol. You would think that would have been included, lol

another time, I had an oil change, the tech told me my diff oil was looking relay dark and recommended a diff fluid change. I asked him to show me. He looked at me with a blank look on his face. Thats when I told him I had just changed the fluid in it just before comming in, lol f'n scammers :shaking:
 

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I was half way out the door to the garage, to find my manuals, when I remembered that the dealer still has my Jeep! It went in for a second try at fixing a starting problem (problem being the lack of consistent starting), and "loose" steering that has a "bump". I think nitrogen in the tires should be the least of their concerns!

I figured this is a dealer ploy to drum up numbers in their service area. I would think most people wouldn't even question them. "Oh no! Not my Fitzer valve! Well, if you say it needs replacing, we better do it!".
 

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When i speced out my jeep,the dealer said they found exactly what I wanted and there would be a $500.00 charge to bring it in.I told them,and these are my exact words," F#ck you man,for 500 bux I'll go get the F#ckin' thing myself".The look on their face,not to mention some customers faces was priceless.The salesman came back and told me they would "waive" the fee.I asked him where is my jeep coming from,his answer was "I don't know".There where 34 miles on my JK when I picked it up. :shaking:
 

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Well..A car salesman is a car salesman no matter what vehicle that are selling. And not all dealers shops are trying to kill ya with a needless service like nitrogen in the tires. Just most of em.

The dealership is required to inspect your jeep once every 5k miles for the warrenty to remain in tact. nothing else. They don't have to perfom any service at all..Just inspect every 5k. The oil change takes care of this for me. This is what I have been told from DC on the warranty.
 

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I thought the mandatory inspection was every 5 years
 

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They mentioned that your fuel fitler should be changed too....isn't the filter in the tank? I didn't think these had an external filter that you could change.
 

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I thought the mandatory maintanance was every 5 years also
It's been a while since i had that conversation, but I coulda swore he said 5k miles, because I was thinking that was a whole lot of time at the dealership. I could be wrong..it might have been every 5 years.
 

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Mine says 5 years. In 5 years, I plan to have so much changed that it would void any warranty anyway.

Did you guys actually read what that lifetime warranty covered? Driveline hard parts only. Every gasket, sensor, filter, and wire on that new engine you're expecting 10 years from now will be coming out of your pocket. Probably labor too.

It might be a good thing for street Jeeps, but I doubt I'll ever be able or willing to use it.
 

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Gasoline Engine: Cylinder block and all internal parts; cylinder head assemblies; timing case, timing chain, timing belt, gears and sprockets; vibration damper; oil pump; water pump and housing; intake and exhaust manifolds; flywheel with starter ring gear; core plugs; valve covers; oil pan; serpentine belt tensioner; seals and gaskets for listed components only.

Transmission: Transmission case and all internal parts; torque converter; drive/flex plate; transmission range switch; transmission control module; bell housing; oil pan; all seals and gaskets for listed components only. NOTE: MANUAL TRANSMISSION CLUTCH PARTS ARE NOT COVERED AT ANY TIME

Four-Wheel Drive: Transfer case and all internal parts; transfer case control module and shift mode motor assembly; axle housing and all internal parts; axle shafts; axle shaft bearings; drive shaft assemblies (front and rear); drive shaft center bearings; universal joints and yokes; disconnect housing assembly; seals and gaskets for the listed components only.
 

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They mentioned that your fuel fitler should be changed too....isn't the filter in the tank? I didn't think these had an external filter that you could change.
You know I searched through 10 pages on a google search with no answer to this, even tried looking for a picture of the fuel filter and could not find one. Anyone that knows please chime in on this one. Im curious too.
 

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Anyone that knows please chime in on this one. Im curious too.
There are two fuel filters, one on the bottom of the fuel pump and one inside it. The fuel pump is in the tank. The fuel filters do not require maintenance and should only be replaced if a diagnostic procedure says to do so.

Any dealer that says they should be routinely serviced/replaced is either a/ not knowledgeable enough to be trusted with your vehicle, or b/ thinks you are dumb enough to pay for something that does not need doing. Either way they should be avoided.
 

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another time, I had an oil change, the tech told me my diff oil was looking relay dark and recommended a diff fluid change. I asked him to show me. He looked at me with a blank look on his face. Thats when I told him I had just changed the fluid in it just before comming in, lol f'n scammers :shaking:
Amazing isn't it :shaking:

We can't live without dealers, but they sure make it hard to give them any money as they so many are just blatant thieves.
 

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The fuel filters do not require maintenance and should only be replaced if a diagnostic procedure says to do so.

Any dealer that says they should be routinely serviced/replaced is either a/ not knowledgeable enough to be trusted with your vehicle, or b/ thinks you are dumb enough to pay for something that does not need doing. Either way they should be avoided.
Very true, thanx. Just checked the maintinance schedule and no where in there at any mileage does it mention the fuel filter.
 
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