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Has anyone tried making the mounts to move the back seat 1" ?
The rear seat on a 4dr is pretty extensive for a quick mount fix....the 2dr should be a bit easier...I'd move a tire mount around as needed and try that route first....

I've done 4 reclining corbeau seats in jku's and tire carriers inside them for several people..easiest is the modification of stuff In rear first...

What are you trying to accomplish? Maybe have a Iidea to help.
 
The rear seat on a 4dr is pretty extensive for a quick mount fix....the 2dr should be a bit easier...I'd move a tire mount around as needed and try that route first....

I've done 4 reclining corbeau seats in jku's and tire carriers inside them for several people..easiest is the modification of stuff In rear first...

What are you trying to accomplish? Maybe have a Iidea to help.
I want the tire (shown above at angle) to lay flat so I can use a baja type basket mount for other things on top and get the most use of my storage area for trips. I drive my JK to wheel places like Rausch Creek, Big Dogs, etc so the better equipped I can be the better.

The 37" IROK is close to fitting but just not quite. couple guys suggested cutting or hammering the bottom of the tail gate, but when I looked at this area last season I dont see that working as the tire stuck out past the end of the tub too.
 
You don't need no stinkin' spare! Just make sure someone you're wheeling with someone with 37's and a spare.
after this happened last weekend wheelin' i think im going to start trying to figure out how to ditch my rear bumper and tire carrier.

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notice my spare tire is dragging the ground. :mad:


ive seen a lot of setups where people mount the tire to a custom tube setup in the rear standing up or at a slant, but honestly im interested in the spare sitting flat down in the storage area in the back of my four door. several reasons why i like this placement...

1 keeps weight lower in the vehicle, better cog
2 it wont block the little bit of rear view i have
3 i will be able to easier use a slant back style soft top easily (trektop nx)
4 i could put a cover or lid over the top of it for storage, i use rubbermaid action packers for storage

so all that said, has anyone ever came up with a storage solution like this for the spare?
 
I've done a couple here's mine and another. I've angled them up so the rear closes as well...
Mine was do e for weight distribution and departure ...weight low rear high and tucked.

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Another one...this one could have been more upright easily and door would have closed...
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nice!

perhaps something with bolt in rails....
The two rails on mine bolt in. You have to take the rear most rail out to put the spare in. You then tilt it up (easy 1 person job even with a 40) and slide the rear rail in then rebolt it. In the jk, you could do one rail for the spare to lean against. That would help with the thin sheet metal issue of the JK. You can actually still see over the spare and have a usable rear view mirror on the LJ too.

Heck, I would look into a custom tube coming from the rear roll bar and running to the back of the back seat with an angled mount for the spare to lean against. Could mount it with tube clamps which would make for easy removal.

The issue I have run into is the spare acting like a lever. I could not do los primos at Morris Mountain with a spare. The LJ setup puts the weight of the spare over the axle rather than behind it, thus preventing it from adding to the tendancy to tip backward on steep incline. Keep in mind that your mount point(s) and contact point(s) are where you will be adding leverage. A fancy carrier that has the tire deep inside but connects to the rear of the vehicle still puts weight on the rear.
 











Used and old unit bearing to mount the tire......
 
PM me, might be a bitch to ship from Canada....
 
Just saw this after Alasha bumped the thread, need to clarify:
Keep in mind that your mount point(s) and contact point(s) are where you will be adding leverage.
Totally agree. This is where the moment will be exerted.
A fancy carrier that has the tire deep inside but connects to the rear of the vehicle still puts weight on the rear.
Totally disagree. Mass placement is mass placement, regardless of where it's exerting force on the chassis.
If you weld a 20 foot bar to your back bumper, facing forward, and hang your spare off the forward end:
  • Leverage is being applied to the back bumper
  • Mass of spare tire is 20 feet forward of back bumper
Regardless of where / how it's attached, weight acts where it lives. Hope this helps someone.
 
Or the simple solution passed on to us during the Easter Jeep Safari in Moab, UT:

Let the air out of the spare! Very effective at reducing the "drag" factor (climbing up) or the ripping the spare off factor (going down)!



after this happened last weekend wheelin' i think im going to start trying to figure out how to ditch my rear bumper and tire carrier.

Image


notice my spare tire is dragging the ground. :mad:


ive seen a lot of setups where people mount the tire to a custom tube setup in the rear standing up or at a slant, but honestly im interested in the spare sitting flat down in the storage area in the back of my four door. several reasons why i like this placement...

1 keeps weight lower in the vehicle, better cog
2 it wont block the little bit of rear view i have
3 i will be able to easier use a slant back style soft top easily (trektop nx)
4 i could put a cover or lid over the top of it for storage, i use rubbermaid action packers for storage

so all that said, has anyone ever came up with a storage solution like this for the spare?
 
Jeep ActionTruck Swing-Out Tire Carrier

Just stumbled across something that seems rather unique...

Jeep ActionTruck Swing-Out Tire Carrier

This very clever setup by Eric Thaler of Thaler Design angles the spare up to improve clearance, but still retains some tailgate and rear storage functionality. Having never shopped around for these kinds of accessories, I have no idea if $900 is a good price for this sort of add-on - and I'm not trying to lose these guys any business - but given the number of JK owners I've seen fab their own doors and such, I'll bet this wouldn't be too much of a challenge for those with metalworking/welding chops to take this concept and run with it:

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Again, big ol' props to Thaler. If I was looking for something like this, I'd sure try to give him my business.

I also wonder if it might be possible to borrow from the hinged theme, but instead pivot downward with some kind of bracket or cable to stop at a vertical position to make heaving the spare on/off more manageable...

Rob O.
 
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