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All,
Been reading quite a bit about windshield lights, but having trouble determining what I need because everyone's situation seems a little different.

I'm new to the jeep and don't do any significant wheeling(yet) but spend plenty of time on unlit mountain roads and some back-woods driving. Looking for some additional long-throw lighting to be mounted at the windshield, ideally connected to highbeams and coming on automatically.

Recommendations on best option? See a lot of people going to D2's, but wasn't sure how their range compairs to a traditional halogen or HID spot. I prefer the look of something like the IPF's, but could be talked into D2's if they're best for my needs.

So what is best option for long range, and for being able to hook in(hopefully SOMEone makes plug and play) with my high beams? I'd really prefer not to need a separate switch in the cabin.


Thanks for your help,
Jason
 

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I don't doubt the brightness, but are the "spot" versions focused enough to outperform more traditional spots?
 

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Absolutely. I didn't bother with the spots, I have the driving pattern (combo of spot and flood.)

Can see for a mile with them. Amazing lights. Going to get another two sets, one set for the bumper and another for the rear.
 

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Go with the D2s. You won't be sorry. I personally do not think you will need a light that projects long distances unless you are moving at higher rate of speed. The D2s do everything I have needed them to do.

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I have the D2 spots and are great, wanna get a pair of duallys for the factory foglight holes once the cashflow starts flowing again
 

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I have the D1 spots on the windshield and even those are impressive. You can't go wrong with Rigid... USA made, nearly indestructible, and pretty much lifetime of the vehicle lights.
 

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Thanks for all the replies. Sounds like the vote is for D2's, as I somewhat expected. So the next question, can I wire them so they work automatically with the high beams? I'd love something fairly plug and play if possible. I have the HIDProjectors retrofit kit and built it myself(they are awesome, btw), which wasn't a big deal, but I am somewhere between newb and tinkerer. I can figure out the hookup for the D2's if needed, but would need some instructions.

Also, last question. What mount do you recommend to minimize glare? I've seen some reports of issues with glare on the hood, and I have a white jk, so I assume that's worst case scenario?
 

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Thanks for all the replies. Sounds like the vote is for D2's, as I somewhat expected. So the next question, can I wire them so they work automatically with the high beams? I'd love something fairly plug and play if possible. I have the HIDProjectors retrofit kit and built it myself(they are awesome, btw), which wasn't a big deal, but I am somewhere between newb and tinkerer. I can figure out the hookup for the D2's if needed, but would need some instructions.

Also, last question. What mount do you recommend to minimize glare? I've seen some reports of issues with glare on the hood, and I have a white jk, so I assume that's worst case scenario?
Yes. You would need to mount them on a relay harness (you can use a $10 off the shelf HID harness from ebay) and tap into the high beam circuit for signal only. THe actual power will be getting pulled from the battery.
 

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I would run a switch so that you can control them when high beams are not on. Tied into the high beams you are limiting yourself. Not that hard to wire in a couple of lights with a relay and a switch. I have a good wiring diagram that works for me (caveman).
 

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An LED light isn't going to have the throw of an HID, or even a good halogen spot light. Out of all the LED lights out there at the moment the only light that comes close to matching an HID light for the throw is the Baja Designs Squadron light with 3600 lumens per light, which is a bit more than an HID light.

At the same time the light can't be collected and reflected as effeciently as an HID light since there isn't a single pinpoint light source, and this is why an LED light can't be concentrated and thrown as far. An LED spot beam is usually in the 20-30 degree range, and an quality HID sopt beam will be in the 8-10 degree range due to the differences in how the light is generated.

If you are only looking for distance then the HID light is the way to go since they can illuminate about 900 yards down the road with usable light, which is about 30.5 seconds warning at 60 mph. This is further than your eyes can really see small details like a deer in the road, so you will not outrun the lights at all. The Dually D2 will light up about 140 yards down the road with usable light (your stock headlights on bright have more distance), which is only about 4.0 ahead of you at 60mph. A Baja Designs Squadron will light up about 400 yards down the road with usable light which is about 13.5 seconds of warning.

Based on speeds and reaction times this means that HID is good for 80+ mph, Rigid is good up to about 40 mph, and Baja Desings is good up to about 80 mph.
 

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If your main goal is a driving light I would mount them on the bumper. The light from a windshield mount reflects off the hood and back at your eyes and actually will decrease their effectiveness. Windshield lights are better used to light the area to the side of the vehicle so you can see around tight turns in the trail and throw a lot of light over a large area. IMO windshield lights are pointless to use as driving lights but everyone does because they look cool. My rigid dualies are aimed down and to the side and are aimed perfect for lighting the trail while climbing a ledge (since the headlight would be pointed at the sky) or making tight turns. They don't throw any light further than my headlights so I never use them on the street.
For night driving on back roads you should be looking to use a light that is around the same height as your headlights or slighty lower, either on the bumper or a light bar in front of the grill.


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Wow, thanks Jon and Lilwb for the info. Based in Jon's description, I think HID is the best for my situation, since I'm looking to prioritize throw over width. That being said, to Lil's point, if I go with a focused HID beam, am I still ok with windshield mounts or will glare be an issue? I have to admit I love the look of mounting them there, especially since I feel you need a good aftermarket bumper before you can mount lights on it. Am I wasting my time by not mounting spots to the bumper instead of the winshield?
 

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I'm going to have to vote for our T2's. These are from our new ProSeries line.

I have them in stock. These little dudes put off more light than your headlights on high. They also come with a watertight switch, inline fuse, as well as the harness. They have brackets on the that make them very easy to bolt up.



 

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Wow, thanks Jon and Lilwb for the info. Based in Jon's description, I think HID is the best for my situation, since I'm looking to prioritize throw over width. That being said, to Lil's point, if I go with a focused HID beam, am I still ok with windshield mounts or will glare be an issue? I have to admit I love the look of mounting them there, especially since I feel you need a good aftermarket bumper before you can mount lights on it. Am I wasting my time by not mounting spots to the bumper instead of the winshield?
Ya I thin that on the windshield would be a waste. You can get a inexpensive light mount that sits in front of the grill. Sell it if you need to but the one I'm thinking of might still work with a new bumper. Check quadratec.com

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I run the D2 driving beams on the windshield and they leave a lot of light on the hood. So much that I am thinking about moving them to the bumper to preserve night vision.
 
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