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So how does this happen?

No visible damage to the bolts either side of the 3 that sheared off (bolt shafts are still in the wheel)! No damage to the ring other than a small mark. PSI is 36, torque settings on the other bolts are all at 15 lbs and the tire looks fine.

I did wheel the day before this happened but don’t recall seeing anything like this when I aired up although I could have missed a missing bolt head. I drove 3 hours and pulled off the highway to take a side road and noticed an air sound on each tire revolution. When I got out the Jeep I heard the air pissing out so there no way it was like it for long.

Weird huh?
 

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you did say you were driving on pavement before you got to the dirt, right?

I am starting to notice a pattern with your Jeep. I would say the answer to how it happened is abvious and you should only stick to places your Jeep does not break like moab :thefinger:
 
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you did say you were driving on pavement before you got to the dirt, right?
Yep, drove from Moab and noticed it at Georgetown when I stopped for gas. No way was it happening when I left Moab, it would have been flat way before I stopped.

I am starting to notice a pattern with your Jeep. I would say the answer to how it happened is abvious and you should only stick to places your Jeep does not break like moab :thefinger:
No **** :laughing: I think I'll get a truck and trailer the bloody thing from now on :shaking:
 

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damn, Moab to Georgetown must be what...300 miles? Pretty certain it was not even a slow leak. I would think even if the bolts scraped just on the heads and sheared off that they still would have left some marks, unless, they rubbed and was enough to stretch them and later broke???

do you have a pic of the stems that are left? maybe there is a clue there. Do they looked stretched or over tightened maybe? Those look like grade 8 even...IDK, that one has me baffled as well.
 
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do you have a pic of the stems that are left? maybe there is a clue there. Do they looked stretched or over tightened maybe? Those look like grade 8 even...IDK, that one has me baffled as well.
I haven’t had time to look at it yet. I can see the stems and they were grade 8 bolts. I’ll take the ring off and investigate more at the weekend. Once I get the stems out I’ll bend the ring back in shape and use it on the spare.
 
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I took the ring off today and there were a lot of sheered grade 8 bolts not just the 3 that broke at the head. The others were sheared off at about ½ inch and stuck down in the threads. Total ***** session later, a snapped EZ Out, some drilling and re-tapping and I re-set the ring. I replaced them all with grade 8 again but now this puppy is the spare.

I’m thinking the original bolts must he been a bad batch or something.

 

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I’m thinking the original bolts must he been a bad batch or something.
I'd be surprised, but it is possible. In any event, (yes, I know it's a pain), you need to check all the others.

I'd also be surprised if you missed those missing bolts when airing up, as they are right next to the valve.
 

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BTW For those that don't already do it, when airing up is a real good time to check the tires out, in particular the side walls and the rim for any damage. Most of us wheel what we drove, so checking the tires before the drive home, as well as a quick check for loose bolts and damage underneath, etc, is well worth doing.
 

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FYI for ya, I saw this exact thing happen to someone in Moab. They had bolts breaking on every frickin wheel while driving down the pavement...I think it was a total of 8 of them in 4 days. I also know for a fact that the guys from AEV took a look at them to try to figure out what was going on, I don't know the end result of it tho case I left the next day.
 
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FYI for ya, I saw this exact thing happen to someone in Moab. They had bolts breaking on every frickin wheel while driving down the pavement...I think it was a total of 8 of them in 4 days. I also know for a fact that the guys from AEV took a look at them to try to figure out what was going on, I don't know the end result of it tho case I left the next day.
That's interesting.



Phil, the other 4 wheels are the originals. The one with the problem was the replacement I needed and it’s now the spare.
 

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Phil, the other 4 wheels are the originals. The one with the problem was the replacement I needed and it’s now the spare.
Still, it may be worth checking them, at least a few bolts on each. I'd hate to see what happens if a ring total fails and comes off on the highway.
 

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Still, it may be worth checking them, at least a few bolts on each. I'd hate to see what happens if a ring total fails and comes off on the highway.
Of fails when you have your hands right by it airing down or up.
 

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Anybody have a pic of the AEV wheel without a tire on it? What tires are you running? I've had a similar failure with another brand of beadlocks in the past. With this other wheel it came down to the bead of the tire was to thick for the wheel (Swamper IROK). When trying to seat the outer ring to the inner the excess thickness of the bead wouldn't allow metal to metal contact of the outer and inner rings. The rubber would compress to a point of a false torque value and then seveal miles later relax and the bolts would be loose causing them to break. The company now sells a shim to put between the outer and inner ring when using tires with extra thick beads.

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Anybody have a pic of the AEV wheel without a tire on it? What tires are you running? I've had a similar failure with another brand of beadlocks in the past. With this other wheel it came down to the bead of the tire was to thick for the wheel (Swamper IROK). When trying to seat the outer ring to the inner the excess thickness of the bead wouldn't allow metal to metal contact of the outer and inner rings. The rubber would compress to a point of a false torque value and then seveal miles later relax and the bolts would be loose causing them to break. The company now sells a shim to put between the outer and inner ring when using tires with extra thick beads.

Bob
37x12.5x17 MT/Rs. I'm not convinced these beadloacks are that great and think I'll be replacing them in the winter.
 

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Still, it may be worth checking them, at least a few bolts on each. I'd hate to see what happens if a ring total fails and comes off on the highway.
The other 4 have 6000 miles on them and I just checked the torque again and they are all at 15 lbs (the correct setting). Good idea though, you can’t be too cautious.
 
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