Anyone running metal cloak 6 pak shocks. Trying to decide between those and coil overs. The only advantage I can see to coilovers is the ride height adjustability but don't think that is worth almost 2 grand.
Filtymotorsports. King 2.0 w/ reservoir $508.95 a corner.Where are you seeing all four coil overs for 2k. The six pak shock upgrade is 1800. The cheapest complete coil over system I have found is 3600. So I will be running d60's with 5.38 and 40's what would the advantages of coil overs be because the 6 pak gives the same travel as a coil over?
Well I learned early in life to spend the money and do it right the first time. So if I need to spend more to get the most out of my jeep I am willing. I want to be able to pretty much go where I want. I love any type of off road and love climbing over anything. My jeep will not be a daily driver as I will have the ProRock Hardcore package, with 5.38 and arb lockers with 40's and PSC hysro assist. I have long travel shocks now but hate the ride. I want to have adjustability when it comes to the ride. That being said I run the metal cloak suspension with a 4.5 lift and love it. I just want to have the best shock or coilover on the corners to give me the best all around ability.Filtymotorsports. King 2.0 w/ reservoir $508.95 a corner.
That said, you still have figure out and buy/have fabbed mounts and if you don't know how to weld, you are paying shop rates. For the non DIYer (welder), that's where IMO the price separates the two in the cost only equation. Or, you are buying the generically valved and springed $3600 EVO bolt on kit. It's probably not that bad ("bad" is relative to personalized c/o setup) - one of the JKO guys near me has and loves it (but he's only comparing to his past coils and shocks) - but most of the more experienced coilover people will (correctly) tell you that you can get so much more out of your coilover setup if you are willing to put the testing time into your own setup.
As far as "what would be the advantages", I'll turn it around, what are your goals with your jeep?
The 2249 is if you need springs with just the shocks it is 1879 but I get a discount.I got the 6 pack price off the metal cloak website listed at $2249. Where are you getting it for $1800? I can buy a set of 4 12" travel 2.0 dual rate coil overs everyday for just over $2k. just add some towers and some lower shock brackets which can be had for a couple hundred from several fabrication parts suppliers. Your getting ripped off buying a kit. Adjustability is the best thing about running coil overs with a better ability to run and tune a true dual rate set up and dial in your ride height. A coil over set up will also weigh less then a conventional coil and 6 pack shock set up. As far as the 6 pack giving the same amount of travel as a coil over depends on your set up. You just have to know what you are doing. 6 pack shocks offer 13" of travel where as you can get coil overs in just about any length you want.
Nope! Just a newbie and someone else asked what my set up was so just thought I would say. I just have been doing a lot of reading and it seems like the reason everyone likes coil overs is the adjustability. Also that the lower COG the better. Well my thinking is that the 6 pak has adjustability in the valving just not ride height and it has 13 inches of travel which is the same as most coil overs unless you go crazy with 18 inch ones. I just haven't read anything that leads me to believe that spending 4k plus on good coilovers could be THAT much better than the 6 pak. I value all opinions.Since you already have the coils and like the lift then get the 6 pack shocks. They say you can valve them to your liking but have never actually seen anyone do it. The fact you are running dana 60's with 5.38 gears and 40's has really nothing to do with your choice of shocks and makes it look like you are just throwing out brands and specs to try and impress people.
Roger all that Dirtman.Yes, I mentioned that in post 3. Personally I don't think they look cool, I think they look dumb. Maybe its the color of them (should be yellow) but I have never really cared for them. What I did not mention is that their benefit is all in the collapsed length or how far you can stuff a tire, oh and btw you typically need no fenders or run metal cloaks hi line fenders in order to take advantage of that short collapsed length. With 40's the tires become an issue as far as stuffing with long travel. Its best to do your axle, suspension, and tires then pick your shocks based on the clearance you have.
Fusion Thank you!!! That is the kind of information I needed. With my plans in the future it definitely sounds like I need to invest in a good coil over set up and take the time to dial it in the get the most out of the travel.We ran the 6paks once upon a time. As Dirtman noted, when set up right, they do offer more travel than standard shocks. That said, most people don't understand that the gain is in up-travel. At a min for 37s, you need Overline fenders to match. With 40s, all is lost unless you do some legit body work or make some custom brackets to move the upper shock tower lower.
Another consideration is that you will need a $400 nitrogen kit.
Coilovers are great, when properly installed. Problem with that is that if they bolt on, they are not installed well. I'd rather a coil spring setup in the rear than inboarding coilovers.
Long arm, short arm, infinite flex systems, etc... Usually doesn't matter. 98% of setups we see barely have more suspension travel than a stock JK and in many cases, less. People don't know any better. A kit comes with longer shocks and 3"-4" of bump stop. $2k to lose 1" of travel.