Def no on rc and Rancho. Terra flex is another good company. I have a rk lift under my rig and an pleased with it. What tire size you going with?
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Why not the Rancho kit?Def no on rc and Rancho. Terra flex is another good company. I have a rk lift under my rig and an pleased with it. What tire size you going with?
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I feel differently about the kits. I think the high steer in the Max Travel is a huge benefit on the road.We definitely need more information on whether you're in a 2- or 4-door, how much tire you plan to run, and where and how often you'll be wheeling.
As far as the Rock Krawler systems, we've found that a lot of off-roaders have been more than satisfied with the RK 3.5" Flex System for 4-door JKs. It's at a great height for 35s and stock flares while not looking awkward on flat flares, and provides more than enough articulation for most users. The 3.5" Max Travel System is great, but unless you're an avid wheeler hitting the trails every couple weeks, you'll honestly probably not notice the difference.
If you're in a 2-door we usually recommend the 2.5" Max Travel System or the 2.5" X-Factor if you want to play it safe, since the 2-doors do get a bit more lift than the 4-doors.
On the driveshafts, don't forget about Adams Driveshafts. 100% American-made with 100% American parts... and a significantly better price than the others you mentioned. This is what we're running on the front of our 2012 and it's held up to some unjustified abuse during the last year with zero indications of surrender. Once the one tons go in we'll be running their 1350 style driveshafts front and rear.
Front Driveshaft
Rear Driveshaft
Frond and Rear Driveshaft Combo
I do agree that the steering upgrade is a huge benefit once you hit 3" or more.I feel differently about the kits. I think the high steer in the Max Travel is a huge benefit on the road.
I went a different route because I prefer parts that don't require welding(RK kits require welding). I can't weld and don't have access reasonably priced welding and prefer doing things myself.
The Rancho kit is similar to the AEV kits. It doesn't come with arms and uses drop brackets. As for the money I spent less, because of how I got the parts.thanks everyone for the posts so far. Sorry for the delay in response, the dam thing called work got in the way..
I realized after i posted i didnt give any info about my rig. Its a 2012 2 door wrangler sahara.
Right now its majority daily driver, but i do go wheeling , and when i have it lifted and capable of handling alittle more abuse im sure ill be taking her out more. But my ultimate goal over the next few years is to make this my toy and aquire another wrangler as my daily driver, and the let the cycle continue. At that point im going to be taking this out even more, so id rather lift it and have it done right and full, and save the money down the line. (with the understanding that no matter how much i dump in now i may need to add more , change something, or upgrade something down the line)
Some comments from your guy's posts
I actually remember seeing something about the adams driveshafts. Let me look into them more!
SNOWBILT
Looking at the teraflex it ended up being around the same money wise and for the quality the RK kit looked more worth it.
TERRAHAWK
As for the budget boost; id rather just wait until i decide and do it right. no point waisting any money for a temporary solution. Do it right the first time.
ASSFROW
The rancho kit definitely did look good, but as you say in your post you've already replaced parts such as upper and lower arms, I want to replace these from the get go, looking at your parts list, youve pretty much spent the amount for the whole RK kit anyways. I may be off by alittle but just an observation. Please correct me if im wrong!
To everyone so far - :marcy:![]()
Rancho has the Midas touch, only everything they make (touch) turns to shit instead of gold.
You are completely wrong. The kit was very well made and very complete for a drop bracket kit, but it gave me about 5 1/2 inches of lift on my 2 door. If it were a true 4 inch kit it would be great after adding bumpers, carrier and a winch. There are tons of JKURs running this kit for a long time that are very happy.Rancho has the Midas touch, only everything they make (touch) turns to shit instead of gold.
Jasonhey all. Im about to lift my wrangler ( gotta love tax season)
Ive done all my research and documented it. I would love any advice .
Heres the info (sorry for the length)
Lifts
http://www.aev-conversions.com/shop/shop-by-category/suspension/jk-dualsport-sc-suspension.html
This kit is supposedly one of the best on road rides, they say it performs better than stock. only complaint is it uses brackets and the stock control arms, which actually lower the arms down compared to just replacing with stronger ones. comes with bilstein 5100 shocks that are supposedly engineered specifically for this kit.
http://www.rockkrawler.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RKJK35MT
this kit is alittle more money, in all the forums they reference rock krawler as being far superior to the aev. But thats usually people who actually dont have the aev..
All parts included in this kit come with a lifetime warranty also. Only two things you need to buy separate are the bumpstops and shocks. They have cheaper versions of this kit but this is the most complete and from what ive seen people end up putting on everythgin included in this kit eventually anyways. This kit is all bolt on but they recommend welding the brackets at a few points. Also comes with brake line extentions compared to aev just using the stock brakelines with a bracket.
I was looking also at RANCHO and Rough Country but people say their springs sag or they have issues with control arms or other parts. People say they like them but eventually replace them for something stronger.
http://www.jk-forum.com/modified-jk-tech-2/honest-rough-country-reviews-155080/
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/new-rough-country-3-5-jk-lift-1088352/
Driveshafts :
For driveshafts the three major ones are
tom woods
http://www.quadratec.com/products/52301_98X0_PG.htm
coast
http://www.coastdriveline.com/DriveShafts.htm
and j.e. real
http://reeldriveline.com/catalog/fr...s-p-37.html?osCsid=gcg44b3o6cv31gncn1v7b2lqh4
all three are about the same price.
So to summarize, I am definitely going to go with one of the kits. Im honestly thinking spend the extra few hundred for the RK kit. I do 90% on-road right now for work, with off road almost bi-weekly for a few hours. If i get the aev, i know when my daily driver becomes my toy though i will probably upgrade anyway. Spend the money once and save the hassle.
first hand experience on road for the rock krawler would be nice. Ive read the handful of aev vs rock krawler threads but with no definite answer as to on road quality of the RK.
so the big questions :
what driveshaft company would you use and what lift would you pick in my situation.
Thanks all in advance,
Jason
Happy for you, but I'm not completely wrong and will leave it at that.You are completely wrong. The kit was very well made and very complete for a drop bracket kit, but it gave me about 5 1/2 inches of lift on my 2 door. If it were a true 4 inch kit it would be great after adding bumpers, carrier and a winch. There are tons of JKURs running this kit for a long time that are very happy.
I'm still running the springs and shocks and they work great.