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I have a 2009 3.8/manual.

I’d prefer to keep it a stick.

Any idea if this would fly under the emmissions radar in Colorado? V8s are getting hard to swap here.
 
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I have a 2009 3.8/manual.

I’d prefer to keep it a stick.

Any idea if this would fly under the emmissions radar in Colorado? V8s are getting hard to swap here.
I haven't tried a manual yet. I can't imagine it would be any harder than the auto.

I would have to spec out a harness for a manual trans. Email me directly if you are interested. it may take little time, we are extremely busy right now. [email protected]

Jon
 
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I have a 2009 3.8/manual.

Any idea if this would fly under the emmissions radar in Colorado? V8s are getting hard to swap here.
I would assume that it should have no issues with emissions. You would be converting it to a newer engine from the exact same vehicle. All the EVAP emissions components are the same and the VIN number in the ECU would match the Jeep. All the emissions monitors and test should run and pass.

Emission is the main reason I decided to make the 3.8 to 3.6 JK conversion. I know there is a need to upgrade the 3.8 while keeping it emissions compliant. You would be using a newer powertrain from the same type of vehicle with all the emissions components intact.

The Jeep Security sentry key still works as stock. The ABS and traction control still work as stock. All the gauges and HVAC still work as stock. Basically it operates just like stock but with the newer powertrain. Even the PRND12345 operate on the automatics as well as the EGS relearn for the gear ratio change options.
 

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CJ 3B: 441 SBC, AGE trans, D18, D 44's/ARB's, 2012 JKRU on 35's.
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OK, to state the obvious, why would ANYONE want to swap a 3.6 in any older Jeep? IMO, that engine is really ill suited for anything actually to be used as a Jeep, JK and JL included. There just isn't any usable torque below about 1500 to 2000 rpm. I cuss my 2012 every time I wheel it. Not to mention it has made me very much more proficient on the OBDII and its near weekly exercise in extinguishing check engine codes, some of which are considerably more difficult to put out than others. In short, that engine has had a very adverse effect on my opinion of the Jeep "brand" in general, enough so that I am replacing my Grant "Jeep" horn button that sits atop my Flaming River steering column in my CJ 3B with a custom Willys Overland version. An LS or even and old school SBC is an infinitely better swap candidate if one is going to all the work involved with that.

I am really looking forward to Bronco. Hopefully Ford did a better job on their homework.
 

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Do you plan on doing a 3.6L conversion for manuals?
I had them make me a pretty bare harness at least a year ago for my 3.6/manual and still not running and not receiving help/ nor do any tuners want to touch it, think long and hard about it wish I hadn’t pulled my motor out of my jeep for this
 
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I had them make me a pretty bare harness at least a year ago for my 3.6/manual and still not running and not receiving help/ nor do any tuners want to touch it, think long and hard about it wish I hadn’t pulled my motor out of my jeep for this
I tried calling you the other day. I just left you a email on what to check on the starter relay. The PCM needs to see the clutch switch before it will ground the starter relay. I gave you some things to check and a way to bypass it for the time being. Its really hard to see whats missing without having the vehicle in front of me. The PCM is missing something and is not happy.
 

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Any progress on releasing the 3.8 to 3.6 conversion? I don’t see anything on the website.
 
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Any progress on releasing the 3.8 to 3.6 conversion? I don’t see anything on the website.
Out test jeep has been doing great. Its going to take some time to get the harness in production.
 
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