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Build your own CO2 system (and save a lot!)

So I've been meaning to do this for a while now. Back when I was originally building my jeep I wanted an ARB compressor or a viair system but I decided that CO2 was the way to go for me. Most all tank systems are very expensive and I decided to build my own to save some cash and ended up saving a lot.
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I got a 20lb all aluminum tank from Beveragefactory.com where it was pre-hydro tested and ready to go. Total cost for tank ~$125 shipped

The regulator:
To be honest I don't know where the heck I got it from but if I recall correctly it was from some Australian based company and was the only one available at the time. Now OffRoadAir offers a very similar non adjustable regulator for much cheaper than what I paid (I paid like $85, cheapest at the time) now they have it for $55. On a side note I would also go spring for the CO2 approved hose because your cheap harbor freight air line may freeze and rupture (lesson learned).

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I got my tank filled at a welding supply company (AGL in northern NJ) but I have been told that you can go to some fire supply places where they fill fire extinguishers but not all may do it. I paid about $45 to get my tank filled. They had a 3 day turn around time due to not having filling equipment on sight. Although if you don't care they can swap your bottle out for a one owned by the filler company.

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Total cost was about $225 for a 20lb system. A smoking price seeing as a power tank system is about $430 and even a 10lb system costs $380 without being filled! The system works the same as any brand name system if your on a budget, this is the way to go.

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sweet set up how many tire fill do u get per tank fill
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I have 37's and usually air down to 13ish and it takes right at 2lbs for 4 tires, if I'm careful and don't over fill. Running 26 rear and 28 front..

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Thanks for this awesome write up. I just got all the components for a little over $200.

Did you mount yours anywhere in your rig? I'm thinking I might put together a roll cage bracket instead of buying one. plus most of the ones I've found only fit up to a 10lb bottle
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I need this.

Is it worth springing the extra cash for a adjustable regulator or is the non-adjustable one just fine for airing up/setting beads?

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I need this.

Is it worth springing the extra cash for a adjustable regulator or is the non-adjustable one just fine for airing up/setting beads?
IMO, no. I just bought the non-adjustable one since I don't care that much. It's going to be a hell of a lot faster filling up my 37's at rocky mountain elevation than my compressor and that's all I care about
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I need this.

Is it worth springing the extra cash for a adjustable regulator or is the non-adjustable one just fine for airing up/setting beads?
Nope.

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Thanks for this awesome write up. I just got all the components for a little over $200.

Did you mount yours anywhere in your rig? I'm thinking I might put together a roll cage bracket instead of buying one. plus most of the ones I've found only fit up to a 10lb bottle
On previous wheeling trips I literally strapped it in using a seatbelt in my back seat. lol I have seen a few guys on here with 4 doors make wood or welded up metal holders but I have seen some 20# tank holders but if I recall correctly they were rather expensive

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I need this.

Is it worth springing the extra cash for a adjustable regulator or is the non-adjustable one just fine for airing up/setting beads?
Fixed all the way. all you would need is something like an air regulator from someone like arb that has a gauge and a tire chuck on it. changing regulator flow really wont harm anything. Also with a fixed regulator you can bring air tools on the trail. It has saved our butt a few times having an impact set on the trail for swapping drive shafts and whatnot.

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Tanks weight actually rest on bumper. Straps are just to keep it from flying out. Raced across the desert and tank doesn't budge. By the way, you can get tank exchanges at Hydroponics stores for $13.00. Here in Vegas they are open 7 days a week and are closer to my house than welding supply places.

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Another option for tank fills are places that service fire extinguishers. Some, not all have equipment on site to fill the tank and will usually get it turned around in a day or so.

Sure my rig has seen the trail, but I wheel it like a soccer mom looking for a parking spot at Nordstroms.
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i paid $299 on amazon for my 10lb powertank kit. Hose, adjustable regulator 0-200psi, mounting bracket and tank. I was gonna go the cheap route, but in the end I would have only saved 30-40. Not worth it in my opinion
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i paid $299 on amazon for my 10lb powertank kit. Hose, adjustable regulator 0-200psi, mounting bracket and tank. I was gonna go the cheap route, but in the end I would have only saved 30-40. Not worth it in my opinion
No clue on what your system contains... but I just priced a 20lb system for $216 + S/H (tank, boot, 30' hose w/chuck, regulator). I'll go this route if it doesn't work out with the guy selling his setup.

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So I calculated out the cost of everything

125 for the tank
55 for the regulator
43 for a 30 foot hose
then if I wanted a mount, thats another 40-50

Total w/out mount=$223
Total w/ mount = $263

This is not including shipping

Poly sells this
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...-Kit-p-57.html

Complete kit, with mount, for less. Granted, it is only a 15lb tank, but nonetheless. Not trying to knock your write up, but it just seems it would be easier to place one order from poly and get everything you would need. No?

Anyone know of where one could source the needed parts for cheaper?

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So I calculated out the cost of everything

125 for the tank
55 for the regulator
43 for a 30 foot hose
then if I wanted a mount, thats another 40-50

Total w/out mount=$223
Total w/ mount = $263

This is not including shipping

Poly sells this
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...-Kit-p-57.html

Complete kit, with mount, for less. Granted, it is only a 15lb tank, but nonetheless. Not trying to knock your write up, but it just seems it would be easier to place one order from poly and get everything you would need. No?

Anyone know of where one could source the needed parts for cheaper?
Their regulator is $40, a used 20# tank is somewhere around $50, a 25' hose is usually about $25. Mount? Highly debatable, anywhere from $15-$150..So if I went and did it, I'd be spending about $115 for another beverage tank setup..

Poly is basically selling the beverage tank setup; but with a new tank, where the OP is saying "save a lot" is when it's being compared to something like a Power Tank. Which you're basically paying for a nothing-special tank, but a high end regulator, hose and gauge. But many people don't need the high end stuff. IMO his write-up is spot on for what 75% of the co2 users actually need; and 15# to 20# tank is a pretty decent jump..

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Where did you purchase your used tank?

I guess I need to keep shopping around...

And polys 40 dollar regulator appeared different from the other constant flow regulators I have seen for CO2 tanks, I didnt think it would work for this type of system.

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This really only applies to Canadians.

Something I found when looking around for systems, was that I was going to pay a boatload and then some for shipping the tank itself. The company listed above (in OP) was $157/163 for the 15 & 20lb tanks. Ended up looking around different Canadian sites, and found these guys. The tank is still comparable at $137, and shipping was going to be $26 (and that's me going from one end of the country to the other). They also have a decent adjustable regulator, however passed on it due to the size.

http://www.ontariobeerkegs.com/20lb_...k_p/alum20.htm

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The fill station:
I got my tank filled at a welding supply company (AGL in northern NJ) but I have been told that you can go to some fire supply places where they fill fire extinguishers but not all may do it. I paid about $45 to get my tank filled. They had a 3 day turn around time due to not having filling equipment on sight. Although if you don't care they can swap your bottle out for a one owned by the filler company.

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Repriced my CO2 system (THis is strictly based on what I have found online, have yet to go to local fire supply or beverage center for a used tank)

15lb Aluminum tank-$89
Poly regulator-$40
Off-road air flex CO2 hose with tire chuck-$40 (If anyone knows of where to get a cheaper hose with chuck, let me know... I could not find one)

$169 total. Not to bad at all IMO. Still about $90 cheaper than the poly set up

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Would mounting this in place of my factory muffler be a bad idea?
If you off road, yes.

If you plan to use it there, yes. Co2 tank needs to be elevated at the valve to be used.

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At Topless for Tata's my girlfriend won a 50% off gift certificate for Powertank.
I ordered a 10lb Package B system a couple months ago, looks and works awesome. Had it filled at a local fire service place for $17.00.

The handle on the top and the mounting bracket are really convenient.



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If you off road, yes.

If you plan to use it there, yes. Co2 tank needs to be elevated at the valve to be used.
Jeez Goody- you have all my answers... Guess your a fair ways ahead of me on this JK thing.

I will look into mounting options then, and if 2psi fills four 37"s then there is alot of volume still in a 10lb bottle.

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