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Poison Spyder BFH - Support Plate

In light of a recent thread about a BFH getting a handle on the frame, I decided to at least tie the two bolts together.

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What happened here was the front bolt essentially pulled through the frame since it is the only one that is directly tied to the bottom of the bumper. The purpose of this support plate is to tie both bolts together, increasing the resistance of this happening pretty substantially. With a comp stinger on mine, I have a bit of leverage on those bolts!


There is a weld as you can see where the two plates over lap. There is also a 1/2" plug weld on the back side (see diagram) where they overlap. Obviously it's not painted or cleaned up in the picture...but you get the idea.




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Good job! This is one of those "why didn't they think of that in the first place" things

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Good job! This is one of those "why didn't they think of that in the first place" things
It happens. They could have left it open to help with tolerances but never went back to revisit the idea. The plate will at least make you have to pull both through. With the comp stinger on mine and the way it was bolted on, I'd be tempted to think the frame bolt would pull through before the stinger bent if I hit something hard enough.

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Good idea I'll have to use that when I get around to fixing it up


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Way to rocket through a solution Mike! Not to bash PS, but it certainly makes me feel like not going with the BFH was a wise move after seeing that other thread.

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Good job Goody! Might have to fab that up for mine.
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I like it ...thoughts about welding a bar across the width of the BFH with matching bolt holes. Kind of acting like an added crossmember tied into the bumper?

Or would it be better to just weld the fucker to the frame?

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I like it ...thoughts about welding a bar across the width of the BFH with matching bolt holes. Kind of acting like an added crossmember tied into the bumper?

Or would it be better to just weld the fucker to the frame?
Flat bar? Wouldn't add any torsional strength really. Cross member would need to have square/rectangle/tube type design to be much of any help.

You could weld it to the frame..

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Flat bar? Wouldn't add any torsional strength really. Cross member would need to have square/rectangle/tube type design to be much of any help.

You could weld it to the frame..

Yeah ...I see what you're saying. So, gonna follow in your footsteps brother!!

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I was thinking about squaring off the front of the frame with some rectangular tubing along with goodys solution I'm just trying to figure out the Cleanest and strongest way to repair my frame


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The skid plate also does the same as your bracket.



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Those pics don't show it too well, But that is good to know. I haven't seen many that run the skid


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You know that's exactly what was wondering if thats why psc designed it that way. To promote the purchase of the skid haha


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Yeah, here's some closer pics.



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so you bmw guys dont just play with computers...


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Yeah, here's some closer pics.
That'll certainly help.

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Hey now, BMW guy gone back to earn an Engineering degree . Just starting out in that aspect though..

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That'll certainly help.



Hey now, BMW guy gone back to earn an Engineering degree . Just starting out in that aspect though..
now youre talking above my pay grade


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nice write up goody.

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I saw this a while ago but I admit I'm lazy BUT big but I went and got some steel today and I'm gonna do this tomorrow great write up.

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Mine doesn't look as nice as yours but I was in a hurry. I just cut some 1/4" steel diamond plate scrap to size then drilled and slapped it in place.


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My BFH is On its way as I type, I'll need to do this I guess.

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Mine doesn't look as nice as yours but I was in a hurry. I just cut some 1/4" steel diamond plate scrap to size then drilled and slapped it in place.


That'll do it!

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I need to do this, I no longer need to use the skid as my edisco took a shit on me and I'll be replacing it with a stock one probably just do what nicholsmf did (no welder here). Or do you think I should leave the skid on for the hell of it?

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This may work as a full scale print-out

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pl1i07s6f...L4M/BFHfix.PDF

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