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post #1 of 40 Old 10-27-2011, 07:38 AM Thread Starter
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Blacksheep's M416 Trailer Project

I couldn't resist making a thread for the trailer. It's my new project and hey - I'm excited about it. It will take some time but as I progress I'll update here.

I have done a brief assessment of the trailer now and the only problem I see is the bed rust. There are some small spots in the bed that have rusted through. I am debating patching or replacing the bed at this point. Otherwise, everything is fine.

In the end, I am going to paint it black (like my jeep) and change the lighting over to recessed LED housings. The tires and wheels will probably be left the same + paint. I like the look for now and don't feel compelled to make them different. Although, I did see a sweet deal on some 38" mud tires down the road from me..

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My thought is to cut the bed out, leaving an inch or so to mount a new bed to - or to simply cut out the few bad spots. cant decide right now. This pic is before i scraped and sanded all of the rust out. that has been done now.

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And so the hours and hours of sweat begin. Check this out: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rubicon...7627455816367/

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And so the hours and hours of sweat begin. Check this out: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rubicon...7627455816367/
thanks devil dog - thats almost exactly what im going for. was your floor rusted thru at all? mines got really small spots - im contemplating just filling them or patching it - rather than putting a flat piece of metal in its place.

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Well it was severly bowed and it had all that rubberized coating on the bottom. Since I work for a metal fabrication shop I got a new piece of 12 gauge steel for 30.00 and tack welded it all over the piece. Turned out it was easier to do that than it was to repair the original. Or check this out. http://www.midwestmilitary.net/trailerparts.html

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Awesome man!! Mine never looked that good. I had a few rust thru spots and just welded them closed and bedlined. I will probably have to replace the floor eventually.

Been working on mine every night this week. Hopefully to have most everything back together soon. Waiting on a new Max Coupler.
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That is freaking cool. Where did you get that?

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That is freaking cool. Where did you get that?
Akron on craigslist - got the tub removed - scraping, sanding priming it now.

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Subscribed. Been looking for one locally so I'll enjoy following your build until I find my own.
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Got the frame off today (6 bolts). Also found a .PDF of the military manual - very complete descriptions. I can email to anyone who needs it.

I scraped and sanded the bottom parts of the frame, then put a quick coat of primer on the bottoms and inside of the steel channels that make up the frame:



want to finish the entire frame before i even touch the tub. next step is to finish priming the frame and hit it with a black final coat. I also removed all of the wiring and lights. I am going to install low-profile LED tail-lights on the tub or frame eventually. and maybe some running lights for good measure.

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frame primer'd



biggest rusty spot cut out and tub patched. will bedline entire bottom next.

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Ughhhh!! Remember those days. Lots o work but it is going to be well worth it.
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Hey Blacksheep,

I have got a 1950 M-100 that I built to tow behind my Unlimited. It's alot of time and some money but well worth it when your done.

Just a quick rundown on my trailer. Took a 4" droped car trailer axle narrowed it about 37" to fit thr track width of my M-100 then fliped it upside down for a 4" lift. Made my own Jeep style fenders, added a set of 35" tires with AEV wheels, painted the trailer to match my JK (Bright Silver) added a cover made from automotive convertible top matt. Useing a Lock-N-Roll hitch, and Jeep style tail lights. Then Line-Xed the underside and the trailer bed. Also added a Jeep tailgate from a CJ......

Would post a pick, but does'nt seem to work. I could e-mail you one if you like... Or anyone else if they would post it for me.....

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Hey fellas. These things are so cool. What kind of money are you talking about? In total? I get the time commitment I just do not want a 4000 bill by the time I get done. I understand of course if you deck it out with matching wheels and tires it get expensive quickly but Im talking about the buildup.

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So far...

Trailer: $400.00
Primer: $20.00
Hardware and sheet metal: $30.00
Roll-on Bedliner: $30.00 (i think, cant remember)
LED turn/stop/tail strips: $30.00

Expenses left...

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heres the tail lights im using: 17" across, red LEDs

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I think my total was about 1200.00 but that included a brand new [email protected] 180.00, 3 new wheels @ 300.00 and 3 tires @ 200.00 and the trailer at 400.00 and lifetime registration at 80.00. Plus all the misc stuff like paint and herculiner.

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I belive I have about $2600-$2800 in mying. Most of that was Wheels, Tires, and Tonneau Cover. Did all the paint and body work myself (paint is base/clear) along with building the axle...... That includes the price of the trailer $700.....

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That doesn't seem too bad, now I just need to find a nice base trailer

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herculiner is awesome stuff. far superior to the spray on liner.

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That doesn't seem too bad, now I just need to find a nice base trailer
Good luck, they are getting harder and harder to find at a fair price.....

If anyone is looking for some stock M-100 trailer parts send me a PM, have a few for sale along with a set of M-416 fenders.....

I sent Blacksheep a photo of mying, maybe he will post it up......

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getting my prime on. seeing what needs to be bondo'd if anything - and just how high-build this "high build" primer is... not bad actually. i hammered out some dents in the tub with a rubber mallet and a vise. the reflector in the rear that looks painted is actually masked. you can tell they didnt make the welds to be pretty - just functional. also, they appear to have all been done by hand.

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That thing looks presentable after only 1 week of work. Nice job. So you aren't going to pimp it out?

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Good luck, they are getting harder and harder to find at a fair price.....

If anyone is looking for some stock M-100 trailer parts send me a PM, have a few for sale along with a set of M-416 fenders.....

I sent Blacksheep a photo of mying, maybe he will post it up......


this is boots's trailer - an inspiration, imo. thx for the pix boots.


also, afvter a coat of primer, i found a few spots - i am waiting on bondo to try now. very minimal though - its just spots where paint has been scraped. i am not going to chemically strip the entire trailer as it is just too much for me to tackle. so i scraped, sanded, and bondoed instead. the steel is still sutrdy, i fixed most problems with a rubber mallet.

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Wow, Boot did a good job.
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bondo'd as much as im going to do..first coat primed. this is the color it will be basically. im going to hit it with some more color and a clear coat. i also got my LED tail lights in the mail yesterday. finally, im going to herculine the top edge and hit the interior again. right now i havent touched the top ledge yet.

oh, and im getting new bolts for the whole thing today. ill go with grade 8 for the contrast against the black finish.

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