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post #1 of 24 Old 03-05-2011, 08:46 PM Thread Starter
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Soft Top Header Replacement

First off, thanks to Joe for the use of his garage and help.

Well, I screwed up and let my 36k warranty pass without getting the TSB done to fix my noisy soft top header (TSB# 23-010-09 Revision A - Jul 09). The noise was getting was insane and it was miserable to drive on the highway (BTW, I have owned 3 tj's and a cj-8 and never had noise this bad,,,,ok, maybe on the scrambler ).

On the highway there was no way to hold a conversation, talk on the phone etc. and since I travel quite often in my Jeep for work ( road trips average 3-4 hours one way), I'd had enough and bit the bullet and bought the new header.

The kit comes with a new plastic header, a metal brace (in lieu of the really flimsy plastic one that came stock), and two new soft top front support brackets (the sunrider rods). Its an easy fix, took maybe an hour total.

First remove the soft top, lay it upside down, we laid it on a couple blankets on the concrete.



Next drill out the aluminum rivets on the small rods that connect to the sunrider brackets so you can disconnect them from the sunrider brackets.



Flip the header over to gain access to the screws.



There are 4 phillips head screws on each side of the header, remove them and fold the edge of the soft top away from the header.



There are a bunch of other screws across the header (didn't think to count them, probably around 16 - 20). Take them out and remove the plastic cover.



Here is the header separated from the fabric, the new metal support header, and the crappy plastic one that was on there.





Lay the fabric into the channel on the front of the new plastic header, throw some tape on it to hold it in place and insert the new sunrider rods into the header. Place the the metal brace over the fabric and replace the screws in the header careful not to over tighten. Place screws into the sunrider rods to secure it to the header ( the new rods appear to be slightly bent to provide more down pressure on the header to the windshield.



You are done. The difference is night and day. My soft top now inflates when the air is on like it should, there is enough pressure to cause resistance when closing the door, I can feel pressure in my ears when I roll up the windows, and best of all, i can hear the radio and conversations. The top is much tighter. There is a slight whistle, but I think I can fix that by replacing some foam tape that was on the corners. Oh, and here is one of the links that held the small rod bracket to the sunrider, don't know why it was bent, but that probably also caused some slack in the old top. The bolt they send with the new rods should hold up better.


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Good write up. I just folded mine back over the spare and got all the screws out. Then taped the new metal header in and replaced the screws. I never had to drill out rivets though.

You are right difference in night and day. Jeep might learn their lesson by throwing cheap stuff out first then having to pay more to fix that stuff.

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Thanks for the write-up.

I will be doing this in the near future, as the wind noise on the highway is starting to get almost as loud as my Mud Grapplers ...........


Is this a Mopar header replacement kit, or aftermarket?



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post #4 of 24 Old 03-14-2011, 09:40 AM
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Do you have a part number for this?
And a price?

Does it fix the A-pillar leak or are there more parts required for that?

Great write up!
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Not sure which part number is correct. Go to the dealer and have them look up the part #'s and see which is which I am assuming the first one. I bought mine on ebay for around 115.00 I think.

TSB:
23-010-09 Rev A - Wind-Noise

2007-2009 Jeep Wrangler JK's

Part Numbers Replaced:
68049276AB HEADER-FOLDING TOP
68003640AB STAYPAD-FOLDING TOP

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hard to see in the pic but email them and ask them if it is metal or plastic.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...Q5fAccessories

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Thanks for the info!!
Much appreciated!
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My new header didn't come with any replacement sunrider parts. I'm putting it on this weekend!

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My new header didn't have those sunrider parts either but the difference was night and day!

I flopped the Sunrider part open and swapped mine out while I stood in the seats with the heater blowing. It was about 30* the night I did it and in the dark is not easy. LOL!

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I hate resurrect an older thread, but i found this while seaching for some info on my noisy leaking soft top. my question is, Is this replacement header thing the same for both a 2 door and a 4 door? Quadratec seams to have this part and they only list it for a 4 door. Obviously I need one for a two door hence my asking. thanks
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I read the TSB and it doesn't say anything about a 2 door or 4 door. So I am assuming they are the same.

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I read the TSB and it doesn't say anything about a 2 door or 4 door. So I am assuming they are the same.
DUH! i never though to read the TSB. thanks

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I am REALLY digging up an old thread. Sorry. But I have to. My wind noise on my 2007 JK is beyond awful at anything over 30 mph.

I have the top off my JK and have been looking over the pics from the first post. I am going to get the parts I need to do this header swap tomorrow but am a little confused at what is to be replaced.

Do I only need to replace what the OP calls the "new metal support header for the crappy plastic one that was on there?"

In other words all I need from JEEP is the metal support header. I swap it out for the crappy plastic one and all should be good? Just the one part?

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I am REALLY digging up an old thread. Sorry. But I have to. My wind noise on my 2007 JK is beyond awful at anything over 30 mph.

I have the top off my JK and have been looking over the pics from the first post. I am going to get the parts I need to do this header swap tomorrow but am a little confused at what is to be replaced.

Do I only need to replace what the OP calls the "new metal support header for the crappy plastic one that was on there?"

In other words all I need from JEEP is the metal support header. I swap it out for the crappy plastic one and all should be good? Just the one part?

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Yes you are correct. Just the metal piece. I replaced mine about a year ago. I haven't had an issue with noise or leaks since then. I got that part from quadratec. Good luck with it.
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This thread was really helpful for me, so I thought I'd post my experience. The wind noise on my 07 Wrangler Unlimited X was killing me at highway speeds and during heavy while driving over 60mph I could feel rain spray on my arm from the center of the header. I recently replaced the OEM soft top with a BestTop Replace-a-Top and noticed that the header was actually bowed and cracked in the center of the plastic support. I purchased a Header Channel Kit (#68049276AB) from Quadratec for $138 shipped (http://www.quadratec.com/products/11132_9113_07.htm) - it went on extremely easily thanks to this thread and a video from Bestop which helped a lot (works for OEM tops too):

Bestop: attaching a windshield header - YouTube

The new header has cut the wind noise dramatically and no more spray during heavy rains. And the all-metal header just feels more sturdy and less cheap than the OEM equipment. I'd definitely recommend removing the soft top completely prior to installation, laying it on a moving pad on a flat surface like kerryp did, and using plenty of masking tape as directed in the video. The result is worth every penny, especially considering the amount I just spent on the soft top and I'm pretty sure my ears appreciate the end of all that abuse from wind noise. If you're thinking about doing it, just do it. It's time and money well spent.
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Soft top window header replacement.

I just replaced the header today and I cannot say enough about how this mod cut down on the wind noise. I can actually hear the radio now!
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Is the metal replacement from Jeep? The stock one on mine has broken right next to the passenger side latch. Leaks like crazy etc now. I was surprised it was made out of plastic. Would like to know the best place to buy if not from the dealer. Kinda skeptical of eBay though. Thanks for the help
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I knew there was a solution...

New Jeep owner here . I drove my new Jeep away topless and once I put the top on it was louder than going topless. After two days of searching the threads I found this and this will solve all my noise problem. PERFECT !
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This replacement worked great the front of my top is now nice and tight to the frame. The noise difference is amazing, now I have a different noise, but not nearly as loud and annoying and I bet once the new parts "back in the sun" for a while it will be fine.

Update - the new noise is now gone, as is the super small leak I had.

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I got my brother's 2007 Jeep Wrangler from him recently and the top has a little air leak thanks to what we found out was a bent header assembly. Is this different than the header piece you guys are talking about here?
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Thanks for the quick response! I've been trying to sell the thing but I want to get that fixed first and dealerships have told me the piece costs $700. I just checked eBay and found what I think is right at a fraction of the price...
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I just replaced the header bar on my 2007 2 door Wrangler. Wow, what a difference! 90 mph and can hear a pin drop inside the Jeep!

The part # is 68049276AB and I got mine from discountmopar.com for a little over $100.
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Actually very easy to install

I did mine a little while ago, and you *don't* need to drill out rivets, you *don't* need tape and you *don't* need glue. It's just Philips screws, the whole way through.

You can get the part here: http://www.quadratec.com/products/11132_9113_07.htm
or even cheaper here, which is where I got it: http://www.factorymoparparts.com/68049276ab.html

$109 not bad. They delivered it to a local shop and I had to pick it up but no biggie.

No drilling needed. Just remove all the screws you can find, and carefully finagle the soft top off the posts. It'll go, just give it some thought. Don't drill out the rivets! Remember what you did, because you have to do the opposite once you put the new part on. Here's what it looked like disassembled. You can see at the bottom, the plastic part that is identical to the old one. That's fine.


Here's the other part. The new steel part is on the left, and the old plastic part is on the right:


That's a lot of screws. Keep the different sizes separate and remember where they go!


So worth it. That sucker is on there tight!


Basically this changes the wind noise on a windy highway from "good lord the roof is about to be torn off!" to "meh, that's not so bad."

Good luck, be patient, it's totally going to work.
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