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ESP FULLY OFF for your jk (08-11?)

i just thought i would put this where EVERYONE can find it easily and not have to roam the interweb for it. so here it is....

The destructions are on page 113 of my manual under Disabling ESP for Modified Vehicles.

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1: Shift transfer case into the 4h position
2: Turn the steering wheel until it is centered and the wheels are pointed straight ahead
3: Cycle the Ignition key off to on
4: Wait approximately five seconds for the system bulb check
5: Turn and hold the steering wheel one half turn to the right(clockwise)
6: press and hold the ESP OFF button for seven seconds(i believe a chime sounds)
7: Turn the steering wheel back center, and turn and hold an additional one half turn to the left(counter clockwise)
8: Press and hold the ESP OFF for seven seconds
9: turn the steering wheel back to center
10: Press and hold the ESP OFF button for seven seconds
11: Cycle the ignition key to off

After performing the ESP disable procedure correctly, ESP OFF will be displayed in the odometer for app. 12 seconds each time the ignition is moved to ON. Repeating the ESP disable procedure will re-enable normal ESP operations

thats straight from the book. it took me a couple times to do it.

hope this helps every one out, i know i hate the stupid ESP....

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You can just put a switch on the jeep. Its easy, toggle switch it, tried to use a power switch and could not get it to work right. went to a toggle switch and it worked great. I now can turn off the esp in 2 wheel drive to have fun and slide around, 4high, and 4low. b1pig has a write up on this, mavrick as well. I put the switch in so I could just flip it and go, then just flip it back, turn off the jeep and restart and go.now I can turn it off a few different ways.


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I'm working on getting the updated flashed for my 07 to allow this to work...

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How is this different than turning it off by pressing the ESP button? Is it just that it stays turned off even when the ignition is cycled?

Also, once you've done this procedure, does the yellow skidding car light stay on at all times?

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Ok, I've read the manual and another post about this and I'm confused. Here's my understanding thus far:

Pressing the ESP button kills the ESP and the type of traction control that cuts the throttle, but leaves the brake-lock diff function (another form of traction control) on. Apparently this is the same situation as when you shift into 4 low. Am I right so far?

The main reason I'm asking is because I want to be able to do stupid things in the snow with 2wd. I've blown doughnuts in mud before in 2wd with ESP off, and I heard the brakes working, but I assumed that was the brake-lock diff function, which in that case would actually be helping me slide because it helps keep both wheels spinning. However, if you turn the ESP "off" by pressing the button and the ESP is actually just functioning at a higher threshold, that would make it harder do doughnuts if it was cutting in and applying brakes to stop the skid. Is THAT why this mod is useful?

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How is this different than turning it off by pressing the ESP button? Is it just that it stays turned off even when the ignition is cycled?

Also, once you've done this procedure, does the yellow skidding car light stay on at all times?
Just pressing the button turns it to "partial off". The only way it is not influencing what you are doing is when it says "esp off" on the dash display (like you are in 4-low).

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Just pressing the button turns it to "partial off". The only way it is not influencing what you are doing is when it says "esp off" on the dash display (like you are in 4-low).
So its still there but waits longer to cut in, or what?

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Isn't there just a relay you can pull out for this?
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So its still there but waits longer to cut in, or what?
I think it changes from stability control, to traction control. But I'd have to look into it again. Such as in stability for normal driving, you hit traction control in snow and it should try to gain as much traction as it can. I may be confusing that with my BMW crap I know

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Just pressing the button turns it to "partial off". The only way it is not influencing what you are doing is when it says "esp off" on the dash display (like you are in 4-low).
That's weird. I had the dealer flash mine ('07) and disable it earlier this year. The only light that's on is the traction control light.

edit: completely forgot. It does flash "ESP OFF" in the odometer after starting up.

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like I said up top, to get the esp to be off in 2wheel drive, to have fun, the abs,airbags,esp every thing is off by putting in a toggle switch like I did. its very simple to do, look for the write up on this.


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That's weird. I had the dealer flash mine ('07) and disable it earlier this year. The only light that's on is the traction control light.

edit: completely forgot. It does flash "ESP OFF" in the odometer after starting up.
Yep, I just tried it on mine, it flashes the message in the odometer and "bings" once every time you start it. But unfortunately that yellow skidding car symbol stays lit up at all times. As for the function of ESP in this state versus just pressing the button, I figure I'll take the scientific route and see if the jeep does doughnuts in the snow any better now than before. Its grueling work, but these are important questions.

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Yep, I just tried it on mine, it flashes the message in the odometer and "bings" once every time you start it. But unfortunately that yellow skidding car symbol stays lit up at all times. As for the function of ESP in this state versus just pressing the button, I figure I'll take the scientific route and see if the jeep does doughnuts in the snow any better now than before. Its grueling work, but these are important questions.
The esp off just controls the roll mitigation, it still leaves every thing else(abs)the same.

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I did the steering wheel hokey-pokey after BCC installed my Rk 2.5 max travel, terra flex front brakes and Rebel offroad's rear Alpha 1 brakes. I was dying to get out and try the 37's in the snow, but they hadn't had time for the alignment and steering re-center. I got the early skid braking on the on/off ramp.
I can't see going back to computer controlled traction desist, so I am no longer planning the switched control.
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Do you think it is the ESP that is telling my ABS to cycle the brakes, when I'm going into a cloverleaf, exiting the freeway, and the Jeep leans/rolls everso slightly? I'm only going 15 mph, but the brakes cycle ferociously like I'm going 85 mph and hit ice!

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Do you think it is the ESP that is telling my ABS to cycle the brakes, when I'm going into a cloverleaf, exiting the freeway, and the Jeep leans/rolls everso slightly? I'm only going 15 mph, but the brakes cycle ferociously like I'm going 85 mph and hit ice!

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Probably a combination with the steering wheel not being perfectly centered, higher center of gravity, and yes the "stability control" is saying you need to slow down for that turn (if the wheel is off it thinks you are turning more than you are)

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Does any one see what I posted up? all you have to do is put a switch in and I turns every thing off, thats every thing WTF is with all the questions? I have told you all that if you want the esp,abs your airbags, to be off so you can play in the snow or what ever and not have the esp,abs shit turn on and screw with your fun put the switch in its simple, its a purple,with a dark blue stripe wire, or keep asking the same questions and not use you brains, when we keep telling you what to do you guy are thinking way to hard about this. I think mikesRubi did a write up on this and their is one on the other thread, READ IT PLEASE. Its all their. Monster,goody,know what I am talking about. rant over


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Does any one see what I posted up? all you have to do is put a switch in and I turns every thing off, thats every thing WTF is with all the questions? I have told you all that if you want the esp,abs your airbags, to be off so yu can play int the snow or what ever and not have the esp,abs shit turn on and screw with your fun put the switch in its simple, its a purple,with a dark blue stripe wire, or keep asking the same questions and not use you brains when we keep telling you what to do you guy are thinking way to hard about this. I think mikesRubi did a write up on this and their is one on the other thread, READ IT PLEASE. Its all their.
Dude chill, Does anyone not read what I post up? There's a fawking sticky if they want to look that those write-ups.

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sorry man just had a little blow up, gets old, and I should just move on when I see that.


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sorry man just had a little blow up, gets old, and I should just move on when I see that.
You're right, after reading the other threads (which included your posts), when I still had questions about ESP I should have kept them to myself and just started hacking into wires instead, even though I didn't understand the purpose. Brilliant.

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Does any one see what I posted up? all you have to do is put a switch in and I turns every thing off, thats every thing WTF is with all the questions? I have told you all that if you want the esp,abs your airbags, to be off so you can play in the snow or what ever and not have the esp,abs shit turn on and screw with your fun put the switch in its simple, its a purple,with a dark blue stripe wire, or keep asking the same questions and not use you brains, when we keep telling you what to do you guy are thinking way to hard about this. I think mikesRubi did a write up on this and their is one on the other thread, READ IT PLEASE. Its all their. Monster,goody,know what I am talking about. rant over
I drive my Jeep like it's a Jeep and not a sportscar. I don't need ESP so I just turned It off. I have no plans of turning it back on. Your solution doesn't work for everyone. Relax.


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Probably a combination with the steering wheel not being perfectly centered, higher center of gravity, and yes the "stability control" is saying you need to slow down for that turn (if the wheel is off it thinks you are turning more than you are)
Thanks Goody, I appreciate it.

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Does any one see what I posted up? all you have to do is put a switch in and I turns every thing off, thats every thing WTF is with all the questions? I have told you all that if you want the esp,abs your airbags, to be off so you can play in the snow or what ever and not have the esp,abs shit turn on and screw with your fun put the switch in its simple, its a purple,with a dark blue stripe wire, or keep asking the same questions and not use you brains, when we keep telling you what to do you guy are thinking way to hard about this. I think mikesRubi did a write up on this and their is one on the other thread, READ IT PLEASE. Its all their. Monster,goody,know what I am talking about. rant over
Gee, who pissed in your Wheaties today? I think someone needs a "warm glass of shut the hell up", to go along with the chilling that was recommended.

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You're right, after reading the other threads (which included your posts), when I still had questions about ESP I should have kept them to myself and just started hacking into wires instead, even though I didn't understand the purpose. Brilliant.
I am not going to get in a pissing match, but I will say this. You have a 09 and from what I can tell you have no idea what the esp does? or you want it all the way off like I did and many others have, plus its in goldnights sticky, on how to do this yet you still have questions? not sure what other questions there are? its simple, you want it all the way off in two wheel drive? thats what the switch is for, nothing works, abs,airbags,esp all off. I hope this helps you to understand a little more, or go read the sticky. Brilliant


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I drive my Jeep like it's a Jeep and not a sportscar. I don't need ESP so I just turned It off. I have no plans of turning it back on. Your solution doesn't work for everyone. Relax.
I know it does not work for every one, its for those that want it off. I never said it was for ever one, Relaxing now


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