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Raceline Beadlocks - Inserts spinning

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Recently installed a set of Raceline Monster beadlocks. I have a few bolts that I just can't get tightened as the insert on the back just keeps spinning. I thought I had somehow screwed up the insert, so I ordered some replacements. Got the new ones in, with the same results.

Any tips or tricks?

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Are they nutserts or what are they? A little more info for those that don't have a disassembled raceline in front of them?

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Are they nutserts or what are they? A little more info for those that don't have a disassembled raceline in front of them?
Bear with me as I try to explain...

They go into the backside of the hole that the bolt goes through.
The inside is threaded, just like a nut.
The outside has "ridges" (for a lack of a better term) that are supposed to grip on the wheel and prevent it from spinning.

If you look at this picture, you can see one inside the clear bag (the silver piece):


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Hmm, does look like a little knurled press-nut sort of deal. Are your wheels steel or aluminum? If you spun one in aluminum, likely the nut is harder than the wheel and might have milled out that hole. Making a new one not grip either...

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Aluminum.

Kinda what I was thinking too...which leaves me with "now what"?

I can give Raceline a call, but I figured I'd see if you guys had any tips or tricks for me first.

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Aluminum.

Kinda what I was thinking too...which leaves me with "now what"?

I can give Raceline a call, but I figured I'd see if you guys had any tips or tricks for me first.
What sort of access do you have to the backside? Any?

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I can get my finger on it, and enough that I tried using a pair of channel locks to hold the insert while I was tightening the bolt. obviously can't get my head in there to look at it...

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I had one that was spinning. I said fuck it and will deal with it later. Which we all know means never.

Check with raceline but I think you could knock that one out and put in new one in its place. Raceline probably uses a press of some sort to squeeze them in but I am sure that you could do it at home with hardly any tools. Otherise why would they put extras in the bag.

It will be interesting to see what they say about this.

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I suppose if it was mine, I'd try to grind two flats on the insert and hold it with a open end wrench while I tightened it.

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I did find this.

https://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80102

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I had one that was spinning. I said fuck it and will deal with it later. Which we all know means never.

Check with raceline but I think you could knock that one out and put in new one in its place. Raceline probably uses a press of some sort to squeeze them in but I am sure that you could do it at home with hardly any tools. Otherise why would they put extras in the bag.

It will be interesting to see what they say about this.
Yep - I have knocked out the bad ones and put new inserts in its place. Problem I am having is the new ones are spinning too.

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I suppose if it was mine, I'd try to grind two flats on the insert and hold it with a open end wrench while I tightened it.
That's a good idea. Thanks -- I'll see if I can manage this. I'm not sure if there is enough surface area to grind off, but I'll give it a shot.

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Not sure this is the correct method, but I had one spin a while back. I put a couple of washers on a bolt and hit it quickly a few times with an impact. Threw the bolt away and used a new one, and it's been good ever since through several assembly cycles. They seem to expand a little when you put some pressure on them, similar to nutserts.


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good idea.

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would JB Weld hold it once it cures?....at least enough to get some torque on it.


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would JB Weld hold it once it cures?....at least enough to get some torque on it.
May do if you cleaned everything well, but I'd rather just use a regular nut, bolt, and washer before I'd use JB on on a bead lock nut. In fact I'd even risk using Durafix before JB weld, and I'm not sure I'd want to do that.

If you can't compress the insert enough so it grips by using an impact on it like I did (and I think you should be able to), I would personally just use a nut and bolt with a washer on the inside.

This isn't the first time this has happened, and I'm betting Raceline know how to fix it. Call Greg on 714-715-3841, he's their bead lock expert.


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Not sure this is the correct method, but I had one spin a while back. I put a couple of washers on a bolt and hit it quickly a few times with an impact. Threw the bolt away and used a new one, and it's been good ever since through several assembly cycles. They seem to expand a little when you put some pressure on them, similar to nutserts.
That's the ticket. Thanks, Phil. Worked like a champ...

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You could use a retaining compound, like Loctite 680
but it will require heat to remove it.


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Not sure this is the correct method, but I had one spin a while back. I put a couple of washers on a bolt and hit it quickly a few times with an impact. Threw the bolt away and used a new one, and it's been good ever since through several assembly cycles. They seem to expand a little when you put some pressure on them, similar to nutserts.
This.

When I got my Racelines, one of them was missing two inserts. They sent me a few extras and told me to hit them with an impact before I mounted the tire.

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