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Mopar 60's and wheels, 17 inch or 20?

I've been running Rubi Dana 44's for 7 years now with 40's. I just got a new set of 40's about 5k miles ago or less and just upgrading axles now. We test fitted my friends rims with 37s for clearance and his rims are 17s and just barely clear the brake calipers. Like less than a finger. Anyone runnings 17's with the Mopars 60's? Do I upgrade to 20" rims and get brand new tires too? I already have to get new rims as its 8 lug vs stock 5. Any feedback would be great. Also if I have to get new tires should I bump up to 42s because, why not?

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17s will work just fine. Iím probably the minority here but if you wheel your Jeep then a 60 rear is going to be the weak spot in your setup so Iíd stay with 40s. Youíll also have less issues with turning radius as the 68.5Ē wide axles are too narrow to run 42s.


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I assume you are talking Dana UD60's as Mopar does not make axles. They are ideally set up for 37's with the 68.5" width. 42's are going to require some pretty low bs wheels. The 17" wheels will fit fine just make sure you are being with the correct back spacing.

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I assume you are talking Dana UD60's as Mopar does not make axles. They are ideally set up for 37's with the 68.5" width. 42's are going to require some pretty low bs wheels. The 17" wheels will fit fine just make sure you are being with the correct back spacing.
They were sold by Mopar/Jeep. https://www.quadratec.com/products/52459_000X_PG.htm

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Thats a Dana UD60 with a jeep sticker on it. I hope you didn't pay that much for it as you can get the front and rear set for $10,500. Fusion 4x4 would be the place to go with a kingpin 60 front at 72" WMS

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OP.
please cease the reference to " rims" ; Jeeps run wheels, not "rims" .
Rims are something which Vin Diesel farts around on in a Honda for fast&furiousflicks.


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Thats a Dana UD60 with a jeep sticker on it. I hope you didn't pay that much for it as you can get the front and rear set for $10,500. Fusion 4x4 would be the place to go with a kingpin 60 front at 72" WMS
i wish that were the case. they are about $2K more.

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Depends on where you get them.

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- I got ud60s a year and a half ago for $10,500 shipped to my door.

- No, the 60 rear isnt going to be a weak point (lol)

- Stick to 40s, and yes they work just fine with the 68.5 width and 3.5 backspace wheels.

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Depends on where you get them.
i'd love to know where you're still seeing them for 10,500. Marcus at RCO doesn't seem to have them that cheap anymore.

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i'd love to know where you're still seeing them for 10,500. Marcus at RCO doesn't seem to have them that cheap anymore.
Damn, I got mine from Marcus. Prices may be up but talk to him first.
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if you wheel your Jeep then a 60 rear is going to be the weak spot
Ok, I'll bite. How so?

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Ok, I'll bit. How so?
Its not, the guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about
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Its not, the guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about


A rear 60 and a 6500-7000 pound jku (that actually wheels) donít mix well. I broke my rear 60 several times before pulling the whole ďultimate 60Ē set out and going to an 80 rear. But please explain to me how I donít know what Iím talking about.


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I'm partial to 40's on 20's due to the smaller sidewalls.

I believe a full-floater 60 rear-end would be fine in most circumstances. I went to the 80 because PO had a semi-float 60 and I kept bendin' driver's side shafts.

But I certainly don't know shit.

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I'm partial to 40's on 20's due to the smaller sidewalls.

I believe a full-floater 60 rear-end would be fine in most circumstances. I went to the 80 because PO had a semi-float 60 and I kept bendin' driver's side shafts.

But I certainly don't know shit.
What the heck are you doing then?

I know guys that have wheeled the piss out of old Chevy square bodies for 20 years after swapping in a junkyard 60s that already had 100k miles on them. I'm talking 44 inch tires in deep gumbo mud, truck pulls, jumping, etc... Then when that truck has finally fell apart, they would swap the axles into something different.

You must be doing some crazy stuff. I'm not sure if I'd like to ride along, or just watch from a safe distance.

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A rear 60 and a 6500-7000 pound jku (that actually wheels) donít mix well. I broke my rear 60 several times before pulling the whole ďultimate 60Ē set out and going to an 80 rear. But please explain to me how I donít know what Iím talking about.


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I'm partial to 40's on 20's due to the smaller sidewalls.

I believe a full-floater 60 rear-end would be fine in most circumstances. I went to the 80 because PO had a semi-float 60 and I kept bendin' driver's side shafts.

But I certainly don't know shit.
Gah damn you two wheel the piss out of your rigs. I am picturing full tilt wheeling on rocks at over 5k rpms. Jesus shit, I wish I had the money to have fun like that.
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I broke a front drivers side 60 shaft on my 5500# 2 door, I was locked running in just front wheel drive going up Cadillac hill backwards.

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I broke a front drivers side 60 shaft on my 5500# 2 door, I was locked running in just front wheel drive going up Cadillac hill backwards.
At night, in the snow with a broken leg while bears were attacking

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At night, in the snow with a broken leg while bears were attacking
That was in grade school , when all of our fingers on our right hand were broken by the Nuns for talkin shit .
And we still Backed up Cadillac in Cj's .
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Gah damn you two wheel the piss out of your rigs. I am picturing full tilt wheeling on rocks at over 5k rpms. Jesus shit, I wish I had the money to have fun like that.


I probably wheel my Jeep harder than most and have more power than most. Even with the stock motor and the ultimate 60 axles I broke the case on the Eaton 2 pin locker in two. Iíve also ripped a rear vks truss off (my fault/crappy driving), chewed up the bearing races on the new rear locker (Eaton admitted they saw this when you have big power and/or stickies) and warrantied it. I also spun a front driver side tube (3 link off the passenger side beefed up mount).

The ultimate 60s are a great axle for throwing 40s on your Jeep and doing mild wheeling. Fan boys like the guy above think they are the end all be all axle but the rear is still ďjust a 60Ē. There are tons of axles out there that are better for a heavy jku that really wheels. (Dana 70, sterling, 14 bolt, Dana 80).


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