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Wheel stress marks. Need help?

2016 Wrangler Unlimited less than 3000 miles on factory wheels. Stress/scratch marks on wheels. Installed 1.5" spacers two weeks ago. Is this a factory problem? Did the wheels spacers cause this? All four wheels, especially back two are like this. Anyone else see this before? First time on the forum. Appreciate any help.
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Looks more like mechanical scratches than stress related marks. Some of the worse damage looks kind of like corrosion.

Did you try to wash off the marks?

Probably not related, but did you remove the retainer washers from the studs before you installed the spacers?

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That's liquid that has been spun out when you drive. My guess is that it's Locktite from the spacer install.
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That's liquid that has been spun out when you drive. My guess is that it's Locktite from the spacer install.
That's a good thought. But, , that's a lot of LockTite!!

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Simple question, did you try to wipe off the marks?

Are the marks above or below the finish of the rim?

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That's liquid that has been spun out when you drive. .
Never/Anti seize !!!

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Why? Just curious.

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Why? Just curious.
Anti-seize modifies the friction properties, which in turn alters torque values. The end result will be over tightening and stretching of the wheel studs which could result in failure.

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Anti-seize modifies the friction properties, which in turn alters torque values. The end result will be over tightening and stretching of the wheel studs which could result in failure.
In addition to JKCTAZ's true statement, friction in the threads and at the nut/wheel interface helps keep the nuts secured.

The JK factory service manual specifies dry torque, too.

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Thanks for replies. Did remove retainer rings before spacer install. Loctite used on install. They are scratches/grooves. You are seeing the bare metal. Deep enough to run finger nail through. Reminds me of stretch marks women get when having baby. Metal stretched and coating separated? If that makes any sense. The pic is of the passenger rear. All four are like this. The rears are the worse. No scratches on wheel lip or spokes.
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Drivers rear pic.
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where do you live? is it possible that extreme temperatures could have caused the finish to crack?

is the spare messed up too?
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Anti-seize modifies the friction properties, which in turn alters torque values. The end result will be over tightening and stretching of the wheel studs which could result in failure.
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In addition to JKCTAZ's true statement, friction in the threads and at the nut/wheel interface helps keep the nuts secured.

The JK factory service manual specifies dry torque, too.
Are you insinuating that every shop may not torque things properly or not be familiar with the owners manual, and just slather things with anti seize when using aluminum stuff... wow, shocked I tell ya.

I assumed Anti Seize because of the color, actually.

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Thanks for replies. Did remove retainer rings before spacer install. Loctite used on install. They are scratches/grooves. You are seeing the bare metal. Deep enough to run finger nail through. Reminds me of stretch marks women get when having baby. Metal stretched and coating separated? If that makes any sense. The pic is of the passenger rear. All four are like this. The rears are the worse. No scratches on wheel lip or spokes.
that does not make a lot of sense, due to the small areas that appear to have pooled at the lip.

is it possible t hey used brake cleaner or aggressive cleaner, that has damaged the finish making it appear that its a crack, when it may just be the finish.

the spare was a good question too. !

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I have never seen anything like that before. There have been tens of thousands of JKs run wheel spacers, and this has never come up. And you appear to be running stock tires, which makes this all make even less sense. I would guess those cracks are in the finish (paint), and not the wheel itself.

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I would remove the spacers, not sure why you have them, and take it to the dealer for warrantee.

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DOT brake fluid eats paint.
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DOT brake fluid eats paint.
So does Loctite. Happened to me once on something I painted - got a little Loctite on it and ate thru to bare metal. They say Loctite will cure in 24 hours but it actually takes longer than that.


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that is bizarre seems like it if was brake fluid etc the etching would be rotational in nature.
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Going for a long shot here, but it looks to me like the paint was eaten away from a strong solvent or something. Maybe the rotors were spayed down with brake cleaner or something similar while the wheels were off. There could have been residual product trapped in the vents along the outside diameter of the rotor that got thrown out when the Jeep was driven. Kind of odd how the marks are significant between all of the spokes except one, maybe that was facing the ground and was able to drain. ??? Got me stumped on this one. Let us know what you figure out.

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Pull one off and roll it by the dealer service dept. Ask them if they've seen it happen before.

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Striations caused by improper coating application followed by corrosion. Bring it back to the stealership and have them either replaced or repaired to your satisfaction.

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