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MTR balancing

Im about to pull the trigger on a wheel and tire set up and am having 2nd thoughts on the MTR's I want.

I want to run a 37x12.50r17 MTR with Kevlar but I am worried about the balancing issues they have had. I would get some toyo's or nitto's but the weight is something Id like to avoid.
Has this been addressed at all or corrected?
Is there any way to possibly minimize the risk?
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Mine have a very slight shimmy from 60-65. Not enough that I have wanted to spend money to do anything about.

A lot of it is the shop wanting to take the time to possibly break a bead and spin a tire. Road Force balancing can also help.

IF you have balance issues and want/need to have them re done make sure you go to an authorized Good Year dealer in case you have an out of round tire or something like that so Goodyear will take care of you on it.
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Find a good shop that is going to take their time to get it down. Mine have no shake but took over a pound to balance...


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I had mine trued/shaved and 2 plane balanced. Butter smooth even after 5-6wheeling trips and a week in Moab(hitting the good trails - Rusty Nail, Pritchett's etc)
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The real problem is going to be finding MTRs right now. In the past the best way to get them to roll smooth has been to true/shave them as mentioned above.

If you add a beadlock wheel to the equation it will make the balancing more difficult.

Toyos or Nittos aren't THAT much heavier and they will roll smoother.


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The real problem is going to be finding MTRs right now. In the past the best way to get them to roll smooth has been to true/shave them as mentioned above.

If you add a beadlock wheel to the equation it will make the balancing more difficult.

Toyos or Nittos aren't THAT much heavier and they will roll smoother.
X2 on that stay a away from mtrs i balance mine 3 times and there still not smooth

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Do you guys think the difference in the Nitto D rating and Toyo E rating will make much of a difference, all others being equal?
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Do you guys think the difference in the Nitto D rating and Toyo E rating will make much of a difference, all others being equal?

Toyo E will have a little firmer sidewall. No real big difference between them really. If you wheel where you rip a lot of sidewalls you may want the E

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Anyone know of a shop in the Denver area that can true/shave a tire if needed?

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Anyone know of a shop in the Denver area that can true/shave a tire if needed?
That just seems like a waste of tire ...
if you don't buy the MTRs because they are crap to balance...
mabey they will step up the game and fix the issue...

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I've had MTR 35's for almost 2 years and NO issues with balancing. Then again, I do NOT use the TPMS sensors.

It is my belief that with aftermarket rims, you must offset the weight of the TPMS sensor when balancing the tire.


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I have been somewhat fortunate with the MTR 35s. I have heard of several saying there were not. However, I do lean towards MTRs again now because they are over 34", are light yet strong, and perform great off road. So it always is in the top 2-3 choices for me. I was thinking of getting new 35s but just in case I have balancing issues, it would be good to have a shop that trues them.

The Nittos and Toyos are great quality tires for trucks but too heavy and too stiff for me...same with the Cooper MTs. I have not regeared and don't feel like adding 10-15 lbs per tire. 4.10s are barely adequate here for me. That said, I have heard of balancing issues with KM2s and Cooper STTs too.

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I've been thru 2 sets of 37 mtrs first were on beadlocks and second we're not. Balancing issues on both set tried regular spin balancing and road force with little change. Both sets produced death wobble with the right speed and bump in the road. Switched them out to Nittos and all problems solved. Don't think I will ever use mtrs again.
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I share your concern. I am dreading getting a bad set. I am waiting to see if anything else comes out this Fall. I was considering the Nittos or Toyos but ~15 lbs more per tire will really drag me down even more going up the mountain highways and passes.

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Anyone know how much more a 37" trail grappler weighs than a 37" mtr? I thgink the mtr in 37x12.50x17 weighs 74 pounds but could be wrong. I have no idea how much the 37x12.50x17 trail grappler weighs
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I have seen where one guy weighed his on a calibrated scale and posted weights around 82.5 lbs. Others seems to be around the same but all have been over 80 lbs.

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My 37'sbalanced fine. I just threw in a bag of beads when I mounted them on my spyderlocks.
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I recently put a set of cooper stt's on and they ride fairly rough. I'm getting them rebalanced tomorrow. I had a set of toyo's on my jk before and never had a balance issue.
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My first set of MTR 35's on steel wheels used clamp on weights that i had rebalanced every 5k. Worked fairly well for average mud grips. Most recent set on alloy wheels couldn't balance well so the shop used Equal balance powder. Insane smooth. Like a car tire. Never had large tires balance this well. Self-heals over time. Nothing to knock off wheeling or rebalnce over time. Crazy stuff. I was very doubtful at first but almost a year later i'm an Equal fanboy. Also heard good stories about the other larger style balance beads.

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How many that have had problems balancing MTR's are using TPMS sensors?


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My 37/12.50/17 MT/R Kevlars would not balance. I was using TPMS sensors. No other tire I'd ever ran ( MT Baja Claws, Nitto Mud Grapplers, Toyo M/Ts) ever had any issue with TPMS sensors. Hell the Mud Grapplers and Toyo M/T's never even got balanced. They rode fine from the day I home mounted them on Raceline beadlocks and felt happy with how they drove, so I never had them balanced. It is definitely a quality issue with Goodyear and not an issue with the TPMS sensors.

I also had the same balancing issues with the Goodyear Silent Armor Kevlar tires that were OEM on my wife's '13 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. Would not balance from the day it left the dealer's lot. Chrysler even replaced a full set of 4 under warranty, and the new set had 3 out of 4 that would not balance. I ended up selling the full set of new tires and put stock sized Nitto Terra Grapplers on it, which 100% fixed it.

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How many that have had problems balancing MTR's are using TPMS sensors?
I am running TPMS sensors and mine ran like shit until I had them trued. Now they are butter smooth. Couldn't be happier - true 37" tire with lightest weight.
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How many that have had problems balancing MTR's are using TPMS sensors?

I have run 35 and 37" MTR's for the last 4 years. No TPMS...got no time for that shit.

No balancing problems. Some of mine have taken some weight but they run smooth. Just drove my junk to work today, 30 miles each way on the highway, smooth as could be.

I deal with Discount Tire, which is a great company, and rotate and balance religiously, that may help. Don't know but it's free.

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My 37" MTR's took a ton of weight to balance and most of those have ripped off.

I'm looking into Dynabeads or just thowing some airsoft ammo in each wheel.

The advantages would be no wieghts can rip off and when covered in mud, they with still be balanced.
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