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Balancing Beads with TPMS?

Just wondering if you can run balancing beads with TPMS sensors? I have run beads before and have had great results with them. So just wondering if anyone is doing it and if it works?
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I did it about 3 years ago. worked fine

Don't use beads or TPMS anymore

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I could not make the beads work and I also got rid of the TPMS. My advice is to static balance then try the beads if you need to.
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I've been running the stainless steel beads for several months now, no issues.

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I could not make the beads work and I also got rid of the TPMS. My advice is to static balance then try the beads if you need to.
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I've been running the stainless steel beads for several months now, no issues.
Do you guys ever wonder why there is so much discrepancy with balance media?

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Do you guys ever wonder why there is so much discrepancy with balance media?
I think there are several things at play.

1) Beads are less effective at balancing the inside or outside edges of the wheel assembly (because they ride along in the center of the tire width. Wheel/tire assemblies that are heavily out-of-balance on the extreme inside or outside have issues with beads. Traditional wheel weights can be applied inboard out outboard as necessary.

2) Beads are dynamic. At some speeds it's possible for the tire to remain in an unbalanced state until enough force is applied to get the beads to distribute. For me this is around 45-50 with my 37 MTR's. Speeds under that and there is not enough force to feel the vibrations, and at higher speeds. the beads begin to work better. Anyone who does a significant amount of driving in this "Goldilocks zone" would conclude that they don't work very well.

3) People who switch to beads from regular weights are typically trying to solve a tricky balancing problem. It might just be that the tire/wheel is too far out of spec to balance properly.

4) Some tires and/or wheels are just not round. No amount of beads or stick on weights will balance an out-of-round wheel assembly.

For me, the nearest tire shop is a hundred miles from here. I like to be able to mount and balance my own tires. The beads help with this as I do not need a spin machine. Although, I'm looking at getting a cheap bubble-balancer to get them closer to balanced before using the beads.

That's my take anyway. It may or may not be worth 2 cents.

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I think there are several things at play.

1) Beads are less effective at balancing the inside or outside edges of the wheel assembly (because they ride along in the center of the tire width. Wheel/tire assemblies that are heavily out-of-balance on the extreme inside or outside have issues with beads. Traditional wheel weights can be applied inboard out outboard as necessary.

2) Beads are dynamic. At some speeds it's possible for the tire to remain in an unbalanced state until enough force is applied to get the beads to distribute. For me this is around 45-50 with my 37 MTR's. Speeds under that and there is not enough force to feel the vibrations, and at higher speeds. the beads begin to work better. Anyone who does a significant amount of driving in this "Goldilocks zone" would conclude that they don't work very well.

3) People who switch to beads from regular weights are typically trying to solve a tricky balancing problem. It might just be that the tire/wheel is too far out of spec to balance properly.

4) Some tires and/or wheels are just not round. No amount of beads or stick on weights will balance an out-of-round wheel assembly.

For me, the nearest tire shop is a hundred miles from here. I like to be able to mount and balance my own tires. The beads help with this as I do not need a spin machine. Although, I'm looking at getting a cheap bubble-balancer to get them closer to balanced before using the beads.

That's my take anyway. It may or may not be worth 2 cents.
I would hate the balancing beads for sure I spend 90% of my onroad driving time between 45-50 MPH.
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That's my take anyway. It may or may not be worth 2 cents.
I want you to know I'm asking rhetorically. How did you determine how much weight went in your combo without a bubble balancer?

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Post 2 types of balance

There are 2 types of balance – radio balance and lateral balance. The beads will help with radio balance, but not with lateral balance. If you have bad lateral balance you will most likely have death wobble with it too. Running the beads will not harm the TPMS as the beads are on the outer part of the wheel and the TPMS sensor is behind the valve stem.

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