2.5" & 35s is fine. We just got a stock 2 dr through there. Granted it took some tugging and stacking but it was fine.
Rock rails are a must in my mind. The evap canister is also vulnerable. Full width stock bumpers have a tendency to get beat up on the ends, so trimming to a stubby can be helpful (better appoach angles) but isn't necessary. You MUST have tow points front and rear, this is true for everybody. Tow strap, shackles and other useful recovery gear is must.
Other than that bring a good attitude, knowledge of how to wheel, tools and any spare parts you think are a weak point. Generally between everyone we have an extra jeep in parts.
Since we are in the wilderness, camping supplies are also important. Plenty of provisions. Also wrap your mind around the idea of using a WAG bag.
I would never tell anybody to stay home because they didn't have a certain upgrade. For a three day journey you can really take your time and make it through comfortably. If we were trying to run the trail in 8 hours, then it would be a different story.
Knowing how to wheel our rigs will get us further than a bunch of bolted on upgrades.
I'm can only speak on behalf of myself and I'll speak a little bit for the NorCal group I go with on this particular trip. But we're a welcoming crowd and this is a leisurely trip focused on enjoying the outdoors and bullshitting with friends.
The rubicon doesn't have to be difficult if you take your time and wheel smart (and have good spotting). The 'hard' part about the rubicon is that it is hours of continuous wheeling and driver fatigue starts to cause us to do stupid things.
Now, every group and every run has it's own unique attitude towards minimum requirements that should match their expectations on time and how much fussing around they'll have to do. So Depending on who you actually go with, you may get a different answer.
I don't want I speak on behalf of M&M, since he started this thread. Just sharing my rubicon experiences.
Well said! I think we are probably all in agreement that we want the trip to be as relaxing and enjoyable as possible. If 3-4 days is reasonable with perhaps a couple of nights spent at one spot to have a chance to really take it easy then I'm all for that. I'm gonna plan on 5-days for wheeling and camping that way there's plenty of time for the r&r along with any mishaps (as the mishaps may very well be me). We may want to explore a little bit as well, at least having the option is nice.
Since I have never been on the Rubicon it's difficult for me to know exactly what the requirements are other than what I have read about so your input is much appreciated!
My suggestions of minimum requirements would be the following. These are only based on the fact that the trail seems like it can provide its share of challenges and if you come underprepared you are likely to spend a fair amount of time recovering a jeep or fixing weak parts that possibly could have been avoided by taking care of it prior to the trip. This is not to say that we won't get stuck or that things won't break, but giving ourselves the best opportunity to move along with the least amount of incidents would be nice;
These are upgrades I think would be most helpful at a minimum;
2.5" suspension lift.
35" tires and one same size spare.
One locker at a minimum.
Adequate winch with good cable and recovery points.
Damage is probably very likely to fenders, bumpers and under armor so these are areas you might consider upgrading or at least be okay with things getting hurt on the trail (I’m not okay with it, but I know it’s bound to happen so better make peace with broke shit now).
Individual needs may vary of course but in general, adequate tools and parts to fix things that break or become damaged are essential. We can take inventory and see how best to make sure we all have what we need while not having any one vehicle overburdened.
Having a spare shock and brake line to replace what you have is a very good idea along with a u-joint or two and some tie rod ends for your specific parts. A spare driveshaft is always nice and again, if we work together we can probably come up with a parts list that will cover most of us in the event we have any accidents or problems
Food and water of course are no brainers. Never know what can happen or who you might run into that may be in need of a meal or hydration. A few of us have been out together before and have found that we really like to enjoy our meals so as much as I hate to say it, maybe we could put together a menu that we can follow loosely? Or everyone can just fend for themselves. Adequate ice or carefully packed dried ice is good for extended trips. Not sure yet, but I'm looking into a freezer/refer set up, but only looking for now. At the least, getting a Yeti or uber heavy duty ice chest is very wise since we won't be getting ice every day (unless ice is available at each stop, then it wouldn't be such a big deal).
I guess all the other stuff can be figured out as a group, but I think it would be nice to minimize the amount of stuff you have to carry to help keep weight down. I have a REALLY bad habit of taking everything but the kitchen sink. With proper planning, we can spread the load around and lighten it by only carrying one of all the things we need as a group. We always talk about this but never seem to implement it on our trips. Maybe we should start. I am envious of those of you who can travel very, very light. Please keep reminding me that "I don't need that".
Lots more we can add, but for starters this would be my focus. I am more than happy to meet up with another group such as NorCal. Would be super cool to have trail leaders who have already been on the trail before, not to mention meeting new folks which is always an awesome experience. I'm not sure what size group is comfortable so if two larger groups join together I guess we would have to rely on those with more experience on this trail to help break us down into reasonable sizes if that is necessary in order to keep from crowding up the run.
Any and all input is welcome. All I know is that I want to have a kick ass, relaxing time