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post #1 of 21 Old 02-08-2012, 03:34 PM Thread Starter
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Anyone in N Phoenix, or Chandler area, have a set of TPMS sensors I can borrow/trade/buy (if the price is right)?

I am getting new wheels and tires when I do my lift. But if i can get a set on loan I can have everything ready to go. I will replace with the sensors from my stock wheels after the switch.

I assume they are all the same, but mine will be out of a 2012.

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If you are getting tires and wheels I would assume that they are bigger than stock.
Correct?
If so buy a Procal ($150) and get rid of those damn sensors.
I did as soon as I went to tires and wheels and run rubber valve stems.

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If you are getting tires and wheels I would assume that they are bigger than stock.
Correct?
Correct Going to 315/70-17"
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If so buy a Procal ($150) and get rid of those damn sensors.
Already on its way.

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I did as soon as I went to tires and wheels and run rubber valve stems.
So you have extras
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Do most people remove them. I'm getting the same size tires.

Do they sense PSI or compare wheel speed to the others? I'm worried The larger tires will run lower than the stock tires.

Can't the dealer flash it to delete them?

What does the ProCal do?

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Do most people remove them. I'm getting the same size tires.

Do they sense PSI or compare wheel speed to the others? I'm worried The larger tires will run lower than the stock tires.

Can't the dealer flash it to delete them?

What does the ProCal do?
I think the dealers will not get rid of the TPMS, it is my understanding that it is a liability issue, for all the people who can not tell if a tire is low and don't own a tire gauge. A procal or superships(which is what i have) will let you lower the pressure setting or enable you to completely turn it off.(which is what i did)
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Is that all it does? Are they single use like the performance programmers are?

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Is that all it does? Are they single use like the performance programmers are?
Procal allows you to

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• Correct speedometer
• "One touch" turn signals
• Clear engine codes
• Recalibrate tire pressure monitor
• Increase engine idle speed
• Optimize ESP performance
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I threw mine out.
Besides 09 would not work for 12.
Dealer does not have the capability to turn them off.
I spoke with techline ( I work at a dealer) for over an hour before I bought my Procal.
Putting rubber stems in is cheaper than TPMS if you rip one out while wheeling like I did.

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I'll just keep them for now. My dealer will program for tire size. Just don't want to drop $150 more right now. I'd rather wait until they finally get a full programmer for the 2011.

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Sorry about the hijack. Hopefully I helped you decide if you want to keep yours or not.

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I'll just keep them for now. My dealer will program for tire size. Just don't want to drop $150 more right now. I'd rather wait until they finally get a full programmer for the 2011.
Dealer can only program tire sizes up to 32" (stock Rubicon size)
as for gear reprogram dealer can only do 4.10s

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I kept mine on when i went to 315/70/17....to many other people(including my daughter) use the jeep that i like the option of having it tell me when the pressure is low....i didnt know the procal would turn of that system when i reprogramed for gears and wheel size.

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I'm so sorry for being a dick to the OP but if i plan to run 35's with the stock 3.73's for a while... Will using it to set the shift points help over not using it? or is it only for re-gearing?

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The wife will be driving it as well. I would prefer to keep them for now. But, it's good to know they can be removed /disabled.
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The wife will be driving it as well. I would prefer to keep them for now. But, it's good to know they can be removed /disabled.
Me too.
But... I'm still interested in the ProCal if it'll help drivability while waiting for re-gear. Lots of people say they turn off overdrive every time they get in, does it eliminate the need for that?

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If you go to AEV's site you can see what they say it does.. It appears mostly to be a calibration tool, not a performance programmer.
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I guess after $3500 for lift and tires, Then... what's another $150 to see what it does for me. I guess I'll get one and see.
I was just looking for a defenant answer on shift-points for stock gears. The site only mentions adjusting shift-points for gear changes.
@Bmw... Please update if you find out before I get mine. Thanks

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Looks like the procal does not actually change the shift points. It sets the right tire size and gears ratio so the computer will calculate them correctly.

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Got it thanks. It'll probably help then if it knows it on 35's and not 32's.

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Just stopped by DT. They said they could swap out the TPMS for regular stems in my stock wheels and then mount them in the new tires and wheels. So I will disable the TPMS until I get the lift, and new wheels and tires on.

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Had a HUGE nut roll with Discount Tire today. What a f'ing waste of time.

My metal valve stems to the OEM TPMS are slightly bent on a couple wheels. I wanted them swapped out for rubber valve stems (i.e. - NO TPMS).

I called. - No problem

Brought my Jeep in - No problem, but are you sure you want to do it. How about buying some new wheels? How about new sensors with a shorter METAL valve?

An hour and a half later I get a message saying they won't do it.

From that point on it was like talking to a wall.

I do however understand their stance, so I can't really fault them for that. What pissed me off was the two wasted hours, loss of a chance to have it done somewhere else and THEY EVEN HAD THE NERVE TO TELL ME MY AEV PROCAL WAS A HUGE MISTAKE ENABLING THE CONSUMER TO DISABLE THE FEDERAL MANDATED TPMS SYSTEM!

This was not an isolated case with the store on Thomson Peak and Scottsdale. I also called the store at Frank Lloyd Wright and the 101 and spoke to the area representative at Corporate.
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