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I'm looking for a starter welder to learn how to weld. I don't want to spend more than $200.00. I am in between these two choices.

http://www.harborfreight.com/90-amp-...der-68887.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/80-amp-...der-91110.html


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I have one of the little 90 amp wire welders and it does fine on thinner stuff.
I've beat the hell out of it for a few years and it keeps on welding.
its built a BUNCH of jeep stuff!
110v is convenient.

use lincoln wire in it instead of the chicago electric wire from HF and it makes less spatter.

for thick, heavy duty stuff like axle brackets, sleeves, bumpers, hitches etc I still grab the 200A, 220v stick welder but I still use the crap out of my little HF on lighter jobs.


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I have one of the little 90 amp wire welders and it does fine on thinner stuff.
I've beat the hell out of it for a few years and it keeps on welding.
its built a BUNCH of jeep stuff!
110v is convenient.

use lincoln wire in it instead of the chicago electric wire from HF and it makes less spatter.

for thick, heavy duty stuff like axle brackets, sleeves, bumpers, hitches etc I still grab the 200A, 220v stick welder but I still use the crap out of my little HF on lighter jobs.
Thanks! Not looking to build Jeep stuff. I just want to learn the basics.
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yeah but once you have one, you'll start thinking about light mounts or brackets for little stuff and it'll spiral out from there


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I started and taught myself with that 90a HF unit. It works fine, very short duty cycle and running gas would be the best bet. I have the HF $200 170a 220v welder that I use now, for the $90 difference, if you have access to 220v, it's a no brainer to upgrade to that imo.

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I started and taught myself with that 90a HF unit. It works fine, very short duty cycle and running gas would be the best bet. I have the HF $200 170a 220v welder that I use now, for the $90 difference, if you have access to 220v, it's a no brainer to upgrade to that imo.
I don't want to start with gas until I'm comfortable welding. I don't think my wife would appreciate me pulling out the dryer or what not to practice welding... LOL! I think I will try the 90a 120v HF unit to start learning how to lay beads. I appreciate the advice.
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I don't want to start with gas until I'm comfortable welding. I don't think my wife would appreciate me pulling out the dryer or what not to practice welding... LOL! I think I will try the 90a 120v HF unit to start learning how to lay beads. I appreciate the advice.
Just consider that flux is very forgiving to conditions (wind) and not clean materials..but using gas isn't any sort of "advanced welding". If it's something you plan to learn, it's worth investing in a tank. The welds will come out substantially cleaner. It's an inert gas, so it's not quite something that anyone would consider "uncomfortable" using, it's not any more dangerous or anything like that..

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Not gas like what runs your dryer or water heater!
Gas like an argon tank connected to the welder used as a shielding gas instead of flux cored wire.


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Not gas like what runs your dryer or water heater!
Gas like an argon tank connected to the welder used as a shielding gas instead of flux cored wire.
Im hoping he means its the only 220 outlet he has and not tapping the gas line-lol

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Not gas like what runs your dryer or water heater!
Gas like an argon tank connected to the welder used as a shielding gas instead of flux cored wire.
Probably has a 220v dryer.
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Lol not natural gas hahaaah

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Lmao! I know what you guys meant.
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The washer & dryer is electric...
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Lol
Whew the way you worded that reply I was wondering!


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You guys had me rolling. I do see what you mean though. I worded that all wrong.
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