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Why don't you fawkers learn to weld!!?

Why is it that so many JK'ers spend thousands of dollars on bolt-on mods, and create fancy cyber-build-sheets and paste them all over the interwebz, but you RARELY see a WELDER on the cyber-list of mods to get??

Then, when the bolt-on shit doesn't fit right, all you hear is crying about what crappy engineering this and that... Whaaa!

And then there are brackets to bolt over other brackets to fix a problem with the first bracket that was garbage, etc... bracket bracket bracket u-bolt sleeve...junk.

If you own a Jeep and you plan to modify/have it modified, why in the world would you not buy a welder and learn how to use it BEFORE buying shit like 50" LED light bars and ginormous sound systems?

A WELDER IS THE BEST PURCHASE IN THE WORLD!! And a good one costs a lot less money than many of the worthless mods on JK's today.
It will change your life!
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Calm down muhfugger!!!! I own a welder!

Look who's talking bi-xenon boi!

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Im glad you brought this up, I have been asking myself the same question lately. I wish I would of bought a welder and fabbed my own stuff.

So while we are on the topic, which welder would you recommend for a newbie on a budget?

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Calm down muhfugger!!!! I own a welder!

Look who's talking bi-xenon boi!
Lol...
I've been welding since I was 12. Long before my blingy headlights were conceived...
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Im glad you brought this up, I have been asking myself the same question lately. I wish I would of bought a welder and fabbed my own stuff.

So while we are on the topic, which welder would you recommend for a newbie on a budget?
Miller 185. 220v. Great welder for under a grand. There are many similar welders. But don't waste your time with a 110v if you want to weld on axles.
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Im glad you brought this up, I have been asking myself the same question lately. I wish I would of bought a welder and fabbed my own stuff.

So while we are on the topic, which welder would you recommend for a newbie on a budget?
Hobart Handler 190 with the Spool gun. It will weld up to 5/16" plate. Hobart is Miller owned and they have that welder on Amazon for 8 bills right now.

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Hobart Handler 190 with the Spool gun. It will weld up to 5/16" plate. Hobart is Miller owned and they have that welder on Amazon for 8 bills right now.
This.

Been using mine for the past 5 months, awesome machine. And yeah, it definitely changed the direction of my rig for the better.
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^^^ I was looking at this very welder this morning thinking about getting it or the Handler 140 to replace my aging, undersized Lincoln...

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Agree with CO4LO.

But you'd be remiss if you didn't mention the Thermal Arc Fabricator 181i welder. Bad-ass MIG welder that can also do stick and lift-start TIG, inverter, small, lightweight (25 lbs) and the best MIG welder I've used. Oh yeah, $800 all day long.

But for everyone else you can pick up a basic Eastwood or Northern Industrial 220/175a these days for less than six hundred bucks, and they are actually pretty good. No excuse not to have one.

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A welder is a must, I currently have a Miller MM251, Synchrowave 180sd, and a Traiblazer 302.
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Maaan! Get out of the wrong side of the bed today? I do agree with you, you you are going to mod, do it right the first time but some peeps don't have room and or garage for a welder. Condo and all...
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Why is it that so many JK'ers spend thousands of dollars on bolt-on mods, and create fancy cyber-build-sheets and paste them all over the interwebz, but you RARELY see a WELDER on the cyber-list of mods to get??

Then, when the bolt-on shit doesn't fit right, all you hear is crying about what crappy engineering this and that... Whaaa!

And then there are brackets to bolt over other brackets to fix a problem with the first bracket that was garbage, etc... bracket bracket bracket u-bolt sleeve...junk.

If you own a Jeep and you plan to modify/have it modified, why in the world would you not buy a welder and learn how to use it BEFORE buying shit like 50" LED light bars and ginormous sound systems?

A WELDER IS THE BEST PURCHASE IN THE WORLD!! And a good one costs a lot less money than many of the worthless mods on JK's today.
It will change your life!
Wait, why is this in Modified Tech?

Sorry but my condo associate does not allow me to use a welder on the premises, it is frowned up.

With that said, I would not mind getting myself a welder one day, but it'll have to wait until we have place with a garage to do that sorta work.

Sure my rig has seen the trail, but I wheel it like a soccer mom looking for a parking spot at Nordstroms.
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Why is it that so many JK'ers spend thousands of dollars on bolt-on mods, and create fancy cyber-build-sheets and paste them all over the interwebz, but you RARELY see a WELDER on the cyber-list of mods to get??

Then, when the bolt-on shit doesn't fit right, all you hear is crying about what crappy engineering this and that... Whaaa!

And then there are brackets to bolt over other brackets to fix a problem with the first bracket that was garbage, etc... bracket bracket bracket u-bolt sleeve...junk.

If you own a Jeep and you plan to modify/have it modified, why in the world would you not buy a welder and learn how to use it BEFORE buying shit like 50" LED light bars and ginormous sound systems?

A WELDER IS THE BEST PURCHASE IN THE WORLD!! And a good one costs a lot less money than many of the worthless mods on JK's today.
It will change your life!
FAWK! And I just took my welder back to get a 50" light bar!!!!

SIKE!

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Agree with CO4LO.

But you'd be remiss if you didn't mention the Thermal Arc Fabricator 181i welder. Bad-ass MIG welder that can also do stick and lift-start TIG, inverter, small, lightweight (25 lbs) and the best MIG welder I've used. Oh yeah, $800 all day long.

But for everyone else you can pick up a basic Eastwood or Northern Industrial 220/175a these days for less than six hundred bucks, and they are actually pretty good. No excuse not to have one.
Badass welder by the way, I just picked up the Northern tool Hybrid same concept, but I like that there are more add on to that one you posted up!

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I picked up a 210v Hobart around Xmas to replace my crappy 110v no name MIG. Love this little guy he lays a bead really well makes me look like a professional welder.

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Come on condo king... you don't know anybody that would let you keep your welder in their garage? A guy with a welder makes friends quite easily.
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Here are reasons as to why I don't weld.
1) I don't have 220 in my garage, and even if I did...
2) No space for it in my garage. My garge is so stuffed with crap already (and it's pretty tiny to begin with)that I have to go outside to change my mind
3) "Sorry but my condo associate does not allow me to use a welder on the premises, it is frowned up." And this too. And finally...
4) I don't know how

Believe me, If I could, I would.
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because everyone online critiques the FUCK out of the welds. People who have no clue what the fuck they're talking about will be like "oh look at those boogers" or "wow look how nice these welds are".

But yet they have NO clue what they're talking about.



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Come on condo king... you don't know anybody that would let you keep your welder in their garage? A guy with a welder makes friends quite easily.
Why buy one when the people I know have one already.

Sure my rig has seen the trail, but I wheel it like a soccer mom looking for a parking spot at Nordstroms.
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Come on condo king... you don't know anybody that would let you keep your welder in their garage? A guy with a welder makes friends quite easily.
You should see how many friends u make after u tell em u have full access to a machine shop. :-) and damit I don't want beer I need jeep parts.

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because everyone online critiques the FUCK out of the welds. People who have no clue what the fuck they're talking about will be like "oh look at those boogers" or "wow look how nice these welds are".

But yet they have NO clue what they're talking about.



sorry, had to rant for a minute there
You sound bitter, you must booger weld with little to no penetration to make matters worse!

Some of us actually KNOW something about welding though...

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I was given a 90a 120v MIG and taught myself how to MIG, decently...thanks YouTube! I won't say I'm any good at it, but I can get metal to stick together pretty successfully. I bought a new welder this week, $200 170a 220v harbor freight MIG. It's not a high end, but the damn thing works well enough for me. I agree though, there aren't many mentions of fabrication/welding on here for some reason, or in the JK community in general.

Since I got that first one, I have no idea how I owned a Jeep without one for a year. I expect a few more people asking for favors now that I actually have something that will weld pretty well, hopefully some donations will allow me to keep things running and helping out the local crew.

Most of the ones that do the major critiquing of welds have never held a torch in their life, who-cares...they can carry on about my junk all they want!

220v isn't a good excuse really. You can run a 140a Lincoln MIG on 110v, which is about good enough to do anything you want on a Jeep if you know how to use it. I tapped my 220v off my stove circuit, so I won't be baking a cake while I weld shit together, but it works!


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I was given a 90a 120v MIG and taught myself how to MIG, decently. I won't say I'm any good at it, but I can get metal to stick together pretty successfully. I bought a new welder this week, $200 170a 220v harbor freight MIG. It's not a high end, but the damn thing works well enough for me.

Since I got that first one, I have no idea how I owned a Jeep without one for a year. I expect a few more people asking for favors now that I actually have something that will weld pretty well, hopefully some donations will allow me to keep things running and helping out the local crew.

Most of the ones that do the major critiquing of welds have never held a torch in their life, who-cares...they can carry on about my junk all they want!

220v isn't a good excuse really. You can run a 140a Lincoln MIG on 110v, which is about good enough to do anything you want on a Jeep if you know how to use it. I tapped my 220v off my stove circuit, so I won't be baking a cake while I weld shit together, but it works!
Too bad I don't live in your area Mike, i'd run you a new circuit, dedicated for your welder...

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Too bad I don't live in your area Mike, i'd run you a new circuit, dedicated for your welder...
Rental house or I'd do the same! Thanks though!

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I will say that welding does fit perfectly with Jeeping.
Money- Goodysgotcuda proves you can get in for little coin.
Space- Goody's and many are very small footprint in the garage.
Garage- If you buy it I guarantee you will have a friend to store it for you and use the garage. Test this one...
Electric- Many homes have an electric hot water heater (not all) in the garage. 240v and go.
Takes a little time but so worth it.

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Just do it! Take a class at CC. My first welds with stick 6013 Just do it!

practice - I don't care about what anyone thinks about my welds.

Those welds suck, they wouldn't hold , amateur, bla bla

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