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HD Tie rod/Drag link

So I bent my tie rod climbing a snowbank a couple of weeks ago and now i am going to make my own Drag link and tie rod from ruffstuff. this is what I will be using.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...g/TREOFFK.html

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http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...4TO58SAFE.html


Now as far as the misalignment spacers go I only need two safety high misalignment spacers, both for the draglink right? One on the Pittman arm and one at the knuckle. Let me know what you think maybe I am missing something.

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I just did their tie rod and it is pretty nice and a no brainer for the money.
I will be curious to see the drag link, and how much droop it will handle.

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Do you think I should use these instead?
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...g/TREDRAG.html

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I would think the heims would have more articulation in them but may be noisy. How much droop are you planning on having?

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I would think the heims would have more articulation in them but may be noisy. How much droop are you planning on having?
I made the ruffs tuff DL for my jeep with heim ends and its very quite. Wish I had done my tie rod as well but I went with the RK tie rod which is stout but a PITA to adjust.
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So I bent my tie rod climbing a snowbank a couple of weeks ago and now i am going to make my own Drag link and tie rod from ruffstuff. this is what I will be using.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...g/TREOFFK.html

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...8X34SET15.html

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/.../15X25DOM.html

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...4TO58SAFE.html


Now as far as the misalignment spacers go I only need two safety high misalignment spacers, both for the draglink right? One on the Pittman arm and one at the knuckle. Let me know what you think maybe I am missing something.
So when you do all this, are going to go with hydro-assist also??
Kind of my plan for my next mod. This stuff looks like it would be up to the task.
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I made the ruffs tuff DL for my jeep with heim ends and its very quite. Wish I had done my tie rod as well but I went with the RK tie rod which is stout but a PITA to adjust.
What kind of articulation are you getting from it? I might be able to fit 16" travel shocks up front and not sure if the tre on my synergy has enough travel to handle it.

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No hydro planned for this axle. I am not sure how much articulation it has, it is sporting 4" rc lift. So I do not need the high misalignment spacers then? Just the normal ones?

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What kind of articulation are you getting from it? I might be able to fit 16" travel shocks up front and not sure if the tre on my synergy has enough travel to handle it.
I haven't had it in any off camber situations since I've done it but from what a friend tells me that has also done it there is no binding of the DL now. I do need to get it in that situation because I think my shocks are going to be what will limit the articulation now
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No hydro planned for this axle. I am not sure how much articulation it has, it is sporting 4" rc lift. So I do not need the high misalignment spacers then? Just the normal ones?

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That would depend on the amount of down travel you have. I would say if you are running up to 10-12" of down travel you would be fine with a tre.

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I made the ruffs tuff DL for my jeep with heim ends and its very quite. Wish I had done my tie rod as well but I went with the RK tie rod which is stout but a PITA to adjust.
Do you have any pictures of the DL? I'm thinking of going this route since the pre-made ones are way overpriced for what you get.
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I used 3/4" heims and standard misalignment spacers and 3/4" grade 8 bolts when I made my drag link. I have about 5" up travel and 6" down with 2.5" bump stop extension over factory... My heims would bind with another 1/2" of down travel.

A safety washer is essential on any single shear setup that uses heims. If I could do it again I would have gone with 7/8" heims and high misalignment spacers, will need to if I ever get more down travel

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Done, just ordered it now plus %15 off with a sale they are having . I cant wait.....now I need to find someone with a welder

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They look like they are holing up great.


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Just a heads up. Since you're running both ends single shear you should grab a couple safety washers. Ruffstuff has a high misalign/safety washer combo unit that will work perfectly.

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Just a heads up. Since you're running both ends single shear you should grab a couple safety washers. Ruffstuff has a high misalign/safety washer combo unit that will work perfectly.
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I am REALLY interested in stuff like this- but I am not really sure how to go about it. Do you guys just order specific componts, or are you blessed with vices and saws and all that good shit?

I ask because I just sumped up to 37's and a sleeved/gusseted/Spartan'd D30. I have been working towards ram-assist, but budget wise I am thinking I would rather run the factory PS setup untill I can adresss TB bracing, CA boxing, TREs, and all the other stuff a noob like me is gonna be surprised can fail.

Is this a recipe/assymbly thing, or are you guys trimming to fit a generic (though beefy) DIY kit?

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I am REALLY interested in stuff like this- but I am not really sure how to go about it. Do you guys just order specific componts, or are you blessed with vices and saws and all that good shit?

I ask because I just sumped up to 37's and a sleeved/gusseted/Spartan'd D30. I have been working towards ram-assist, but budget wise I am thinking I would rather run the factory PS setup untill I can adresss TB bracing, CA boxing, TREs, and all the other stuff a noob like me is gonna be surprised can fail.

Is this a recipe/assymbly thing, or are you guys trimming to fit a generic (though beefy) DIY kit?
All I used was 1.5" .25" wall DOM. Some thread adapters and 1ton tre's. weld in adapters thread tres in and your done. I like the bein joints also. May consider down the road.
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I am REALLY interested in stuff like this- but I am not really sure how to go about it. Do you guys just order specific componts, or are you blessed with vices and saws and all that good shit?

I ask because I just sumped up to 37's and a sleeved/gusseted/Spartan'd D30. I have been working towards ram-assist, but budget wise I am thinking I would rather run the factory PS setup untill I can adresss TB bracing, CA boxing, TREs, and all the other stuff a noob like me is gonna be surprised can fail.

Is this a recipe/assymbly thing, or are you guys trimming to fit a generic (though beefy) DIY kit?
For me this is the first time building something like this. I am a automotive dealer technician so I have access to all sorts of tools, but unfortunately I don't have anything to cut the dom properly or a welder. So I am probably going to get my measurements and bring the dom to a fabricator and have them cut and the tube adapters welded. I have a friend that has a friend that does powder coating so he will powder coat the parts for me. I wish I had a house with a garage..... Priority #1 after the wedding in June, I hate living in an apartment. Ramble ramble ramble


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I would just rattle can paint the tie rod, it will get scratched up pretty quick off road. You will want to touch it up after each off road trip.

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I would just rattle can paint the tie rod, it will get scratched up pretty quick off road. You will want to touch it up after each off road trip.
That would save a ton of time.

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