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Question here. Limited funds and all that. Am looking at a frankin lift. The RC 4" lift. It comes with:
Front: Lifted coil springs, track bar bracket, pitman arm, sway-bar links, brake line brackets & hardware.
Rear: Lifted coils springs, track bar drop bracket, coil correction plates, cam bolts, brake line relocation brackets & hardware.
Shocks: Features (4) Performance 2.2 series shocks.

Then I was thinking of getting metalcloaks duroflex front upper control arms.


With my metalcloak gift cert, that should cost around $600-650 plus shipping (not sure what forum discounts RC has).

As funds allow I'll get some new rubber (I want 35s, but can get an amazing deal on 33s... so will see). Then swap out all the control arms with metalcloaks duroflex arms.

Can anyone offer some input on this? My friend is using this lift (w/ stock arms) on his 08 JKUR and doesn't have any complaints. I see it as an affordable way to get a lift I won't have to replace any time soon (RC has a life time warranty on their springs), and the MC arms will give me the flex I want.

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Forget about rough country products, total junk. Get metal cloak springs and be happy. That RC junk will be sagging and lop sided in a few short months.

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Forget about rough country products, total junk. Get metal cloak springs and be happy. That RC junk will be sagging and lop sided in a few short months.
They have a life time guarantee, and RC have promised to replace any springs that sag, etc. Am tempted to give them a shot. Like my said, my buddy here in town has them (about 6 mths now) and hasn't had any issues.

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My Rc springs went from a 4 inch to a 2.5 over the course of a year.
Replaced with poly 4.5s.
I eventually replaced all the Rc stuff with something a little better.
Now I run poly springs, MC arms, fox shocks, JKS front trackbar, Teraflex rear.
Love the way my Frankinlift turned out.

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When it comes to suspension components, you get what you pay for. It is far easier to get the better components up front, even if it means saving up longer and putting your build off several months...it is cheaper in the end and way less frustrating.
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Let him do what he wants. Sounds like he has his mind made up. See ya in 6 months when your under the jeep again with your new replacement coils.

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I originally bought their 3.25" lift to get me wheelin sooner.

Since then I replaced their TB brackets with Poly front and Clayton rear (axle sides)
replaced their 2.2 shocks with Bilsteins
currently looking to replace the coils. the coils are ok. no noticeable sag

If I can suggest anything...ditch their TB brackets immediately. I have seen multiple of their front frame side break and crack the OEM mount. Seen a couple, including mine, rear frame side bracket hit/damage shocks.

other than that..I looked at it as a stepping stone.

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Wow. Maybe holding off might not be a bad idea. Worse case I can see how my buddies holds up.

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Wow. Maybe holding off might not be a bad idea.
Now your thinking.

As a matter of fact I have an RC track bar that's 1 year old sitting in my garage. I pulled it off another members jeep and replaced it with a JKS because the heim joint took a shit causing death wobble. Junk.

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You don't need any lift for 33s.

You only need 2.5" extended bumpstops to run 35s with stock flares--so 2.5"-3" springs are plenty.

With flat flares, you can run 35s with stock front bumpstops and 2" rear extended bumpstops--so, 2" or taller springs.

If you are willing to aggressively trim your rear fender fender well pinch seams, with flat flares you can run 37s with 1" front and 2" rear extended bumpstops--so, 2" or taller springs.

Like the others, I'd suggest not buying RC springs, shocks, or brackets.


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You don't need any lift for 33s.

You only need 2.5" extended bumpstops to run 35s with stock flares--so 2.5"-3" springs are plenty.
I'll be completely honest. Its more for the look over what I need to clear tires. Am still debating if the 1k for 5 new 33s is the direction I want to go in... till I'm ready to lift it and fork out the cash for 35s.

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I'll be completely honest. Its more for the look over what I need to clear tires. Am still debating if the 1k for 5 new 33s is the direction I want to go in... till I'm ready to lift it and fork out the cash for 35s.
1k for 1" worth of tire? No way imo. stock Rubicon is 32"

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1k for 1" worth of tire? No way imo. stock Rubicon is 32"
sadly, up here that's a good deal. 35s will cost close to 2k.

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sadly, up here that's a good deal. 35s will cost close to 2k.
So your telling me there is a $1000 difference between 33s and 35s? You need to shop elsewhere.

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So your telling me there is a $1000 difference between 33s and 35s? You need to shop elsewhere.
He mentioned in his first post he had a smokin deal on 33's.

And he's in the great white north, nothing comes cheap up there.

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Question here. Limited funds and all that. Am looking at a frankin lift. The RC 4" lift. It comes with:
Front: Lifted coil springs, track bar bracket, pitman arm, sway-bar links, brake line brackets & hardware.
Rear: Lifted coils springs, track bar drop bracket, coil correction plates, cam bolts, brake line relocation brackets & hardware.
Shocks: Features (4) Performance 2.2 series shocks.

Then I was thinking of getting metalcloaks duroflex front upper control arms.


With my metalcloak gift cert, that should cost around $600-650 plus shipping (not sure what forum discounts RC has).

As funds allow I'll get some new rubber (I want 35s, but can get an amazing deal on 33s... so will see). Then swap out all the control arms with metalcloaks duroflex arms.

Can anyone offer some input on this? My friend is using this lift (w/ stock arms) on his 08 JKUR and doesn't have any complaints. I see it as an affordable way to get a lift I won't have to replace any time soon (RC has a life time warranty on their springs), and the MC arms will give me the flex I want.

Why don't you just contact Marcus with rivercityoffroad.com and see what kind of deal he can make you. I am building my Jeep on a budget and he has the best prices I have found anywhere + great customer service. I sent him an e-mail one night at about 10PM expecting to get a reply the next day. Nope about 30 min later I get a notification on my phone (which woke my wife up). It was him responding.

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So your telling me there is a $1000 difference between 33s and 35s? You need to shop elsewhere.
I live in northern Canada. Its closer to drive to Alaska than it is to drive to a major center (pop above 40k) in Canada.

5 33x12.5x17 will cost close to $1500 new. 13-1400 if I can get my friend at the tire shop to cut me a deal. 35s will cost 2k new, maybe 17-18 with a deal if I'm lucky. I can't get any shipped up here from the cheap places down south as it's 4-500+ in shipping (I've checked). The joys of living up north.

The 33s my buddy has are 33x13.5x17, he's only had them a few months and he'll move them for 1k. So yes, that's a good deal. The only question is do I want to spend the 1k on 33s before jumping to 35s.

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He mentioned in his first post he had a smokin deal on 33's.

And he's in the great white north, nothing comes cheap up there.
I see that now. I'm thinking a retail vs retail purchase.

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I see that now. I'm thinking a retail vs retail purchase.
Yeah it would only be about $500 or so difference (depending on what sort of deal I could get) between 33s/35s.

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You don't need any lift for 33s.

You only need 2.5" extended bumpstops to run 35s with stock flares--so 2.5"-3" springs are plenty.

With flat flares, you can run 35s with stock front bumpstops and 2" rear extended bumpstops--so, 2" or taller springs.

If you are willing to aggressively trim your rear fender fender well pinch seams, with flat flares you can run 37s with 1" front and 2" rear extended bumpstops--so, 2" or taller springs.

Like the others, I'd suggest not buying RC springs, shocks, or brackets.
LT315/70R17D2 121Q B Hankook DynaPro MT RT03 - they convert out to 34.4 x 12.4". Could I run these on a completely stock rig (I have wheel spacers on)? I know it would limit my flex... but would they fit?

Discount Tire sells these for $266. I could probably get these, and have them mounted for less than $1500. I can either get them shipped to Vancouver or North West Washington around when I'll be down there this summer. They say they have free shipping - which doesn't apply for where I live... but should apply to Vancouver BC, or to NW Washington.

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I have RC coils for almost 3 years now. No issues and I actually like the ride quality. Maybe I'm just lucky or odd. I did, however, swap out the shocks that came with it. I still use the TB bracket in the rear, discos and extended front brake lines. No issues after about 30k miles and mild offroad. A lifetime warranty isn't worth much if my jeep is on jackstands for over a week, though. Fortunately, hasn't happened.....yet. If it does, I'll replace and sell them and buy something else right away.

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I have RC coils for almost 3 years now. No issues and I actually like the ride quality. Maybe I'm just lucky or odd. I did, however, swap out the shocks that came with it. I still use the TB bracket in the rear, discos and extended front brake lines. No issues after about 30k miles and mild offroad. A lifetime warranty isn't worth much if my jeep is on jackstands for over a week, though. Fortunately, hasn't happened.....yet. If it does, I'll replace and sell them and buy something else right away.


My local shop suggested this kit and one of the guys actually has it on his jk and has for 18 months now with no issues. I rode in it and it rode better than my JK.
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LT315/70R17D2 121Q B Hankook DynaPro MT RT03 - they convert out to 34.4 x 12.4". Could I run these on a completely stock rig (I have wheel spacers on)? I know it would limit my flex... but would they fit?

Discount Tire sells these for $266. I could probably get these, and have them mounted for less than $1500. I can either get them shipped to Vancouver or North West Washington around when I'll be down there this summer. They say they have free shipping - which doesn't apply for where I live... but should apply to Vancouver BC, or to NW Washington.
You could run 315/70R17s with flat flares, generous trimming of the rear fender well pinch seam, 1" rear extended bumpstops, and 1.5" wheel spacers.


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If you are lifting for looks trimming the fenders will give the look of about a 4" lift and it will be free and not mess with the suspension or steering geometry.

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If you are lifting for looks trimming the fenders will give the look of about a 4" lift and it will be free and not mess with the suspension or steering geometry.
I know... but I'm not really a fan of the trimmed fenders. Cheap and effective... but something I'd rather avoid if possible.

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