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post #1 of 26 Old 02-23-2012, 10:19 PM Thread Starter
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what to know about a Tubing bender

Im looking into buying a tube bender. I have about 3K to spend on it and Im wondering who has what and what they say about it. I want the hole stand/ram/die setup. something I order and its ready to use when it hits my door step. As for Dies I want a 1.75 at least but I will be getting a 1.5 and a 2" also befor its all said and done.
So what have to got out there? What do I need to know when Im looking at one?

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post #2 of 26 Old 02-24-2012, 05:22 AM
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Go to pirate and look under tools/supplies. They have several different vendors that sell benders etc.

Air over hydraulic?
Air over electric?
Max tubing size you will bend?
Max wall thickness tube you want to bend?
90 or 180 degree dies?
Vertical or horizontal orientation?

You can get in to a nice bender for 1k.
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ok Ill check it out. Thanks

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These are the way to go in my opinion. Adding a Ram kit is easy and they make dies to bend everything! If you look locally sometimes you can find a deal on one. I bought one a couple of years ago for $200, it had about $2000 worth of dies.
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I bought a Pro Tools 105 HD and made my own stand and Hydro setup.
I was going to buy the Pro Bender one, but decided I could make one better for less money...

I prefer the vertical because it takes up less space and is easy to wheel around.

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Ya I'd take a look over on pirate lot of good info over there, but Co4Lo's looks nice

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The pro bender looks like a hell of a deal but all their dies only go to 110deg.

Here are the 2 I was looking at and leaning in the direction of

JD Squared, Inc.
Deluxe Model 32 Air / Hydraulic Tube Bender Kit
Model 32 Hydraulic Bender with air/hydraulic pump plus rolling floor pedestal,
magnetic base pointer, and sample bottle of bending lube.

Bender $1,900
1-5" $265
1-3/4" $300
2" $345
Notcher $220
Total $3030

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Commercial electric/hydraulic power unit
Bender $2,100.00
1-5" $440
1-3/4" $481
2" $508
Notcher $220
Total $3750

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I have had a Pro Tools 105 for ~ 10 years with no problems.

My experience:

- I bought the following dies when it was new (1.75", 1.25", .75")
* The .75" has never been taken out of the box
** Having a 1.5" and a 1.75" is a waste of $ IMO

- How much tube do you plan to bend?
* We manually bend 1.75" x .120 wall without a ton of trouble. It's a workout but it's it's not too hard.
** If this is only for recreation use I would save the $

- Add a digital angle finder to your list of tools for the bender -very helpful

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I have had a Pro Tools 105 for ~ 10 years with no problems.

My experience:

- I bought the following dies when it was new (1.75", 1.25", .75")
* The .75" has never been taken out of the box
** Having a 1.5" and a 1.75" is a waste of $ IMO

- How much tube do you plan to bend?
* We manually bend 1.75" x .120 wall without a ton of trouble. It's a workout but it's it's not too hard.
** If this is only for recreation use I would save the $

- Add a digital angle finder to your list of tools for the bender -very helpful

http://http://www.google.com/m/produ...ed=0CDQQ8wIwAA
So why would having both 1.5 and 1.75" dies be a waste of money? Is it because you can bend 1.5" with the 1.75" die? I ask because I plan on building my stock of dies and don't want to waste money if I don't have to.
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The pro bender looks like a hell of a deal but all their dies only go to 110deg.
Not sure if that's true. You can use any Pro Tools die. Same as mine. You just have to pull the pin at about 100*, run the ram back down, re-insert the pin, and keep bending.
Do they only spec it to 110* ??

The thing that sucks about the Pro Bender Hydraulic setup is that when you have to pull the pin, it can be a PITA because there is always a little tension due to springback. So guys tend to hammer the pins out and they get all banged up over time.

That's why I used a 2-way ram on mine. I can run it back a skosh to release the tension, and pull the pin with no effort. Works great!
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Not sure if that's true. You can use any Pro Tools die. Same as mine. You just have to pull the pin at about 100*, run the ram back down, re-insert the pin, and keep bending.
Do they only spec it to 110* ??
I apolagize about that. I looked at it again now that Im not so tired and they do offer a 240deg die

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Here is the price breakdown for that one

Pro Bender
Bender $2143
1-5" $260
1-3/4" $310
2" $310
Notcher$220
Total $3243

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jd2 model 3 tube bender is the way to go
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jd2 model 3 tube bender is the way to go
Thats what Im leaning into I think

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So why would having both 1.5 and 1.75" dies be a waste of money? Is it because you can bend 1.5" with the 1.75" die? I ask because I plan on building my stock of dies and don't want to waste money if I don't have to.
I do all cage and bumper work out of 1.75"

I have never had a need for 1.5"

The dies are exclusive.

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I've had a pro tools 105HD for about 7-8 years with1.25-1.75 240deg. dies. A couple years back I converted it to air over hydro with the swag brackets and the harbor freight cherry picker ram. It bends everything I've thrown at it. The thickest/meanest material I've bent was some 1.5 188 wall dom. I've never had an issue with it, still works flawlessly, I've ran hundreds of feet thru mine. Main thing is, get yourself a good notched, it'll make life a lot easier.

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[QUOTE=Main thing is, get yourself a good notched, it'll make life a lot easier.[/QUOTE]

Good to know. I will use the hell out of it so I planned on that in the bender price also. otherwise it would be like Mac with out the cheese
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You can find used manual Pro Tools with dies for under $1000. We built many cages for years with one. But if you're looking to do a lot of bending, a hydraulic bender is the only way to go. We've had a JD Squared Model 4, since 2007. It's amazing.


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You can find used manual Pro Tools with dies for under $1000. We built many cages for years with one. But if you're looking to do a lot of bending, a hydraulic bender is the only way to go. We've had a JD Squared Model 4, since 2007. It's amazing.
Im leaning in the direction of the Electric/hydrolic Then I dont have to have my compressor running none stop and I can listen to the radio while working on it. I also build a lot of bumpers and cages. Actually Im not even the one paying for the bander. I have 2 Roll cages in toyota pickups, and 3 front bumpers I have built the people want to add some tube work to so that is whats paying for the bender. so I hope its not something that just sits around like my cutting torch has since I got a plazma haha

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I have a JD2 model 3 and really like it. You can always add the hydraulic set up to it if you plan on bending a lot of tube which it sounds like you are. I would suggest getting 180* dies, nice to have the ability to bend more then 90* when you need to.
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I kinda wanna hump that thing! Wow!
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Fitting thread I just won a RDB-050 Tube Bender and a TN-250 notcher from Baileigh Industrial on Pirate4x4
http://www.baileighindustrial.com/be...bender-050.php

Ya, I am bragging

Most people I have seen witha ProTool or a JD style bender have no problems for hobbiest use and the usual upgrade is an air over hydro system just so you are not sweating your butt off in the summer.
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Fitting thread I just won a RDB-050 Tube Bender and a TN-250 notcher from Baileigh Industrial on Pirate4x4
http://www.baileighindustrial.com/be...bender-050.php

Ya, I am bragging

Most people I have seen witha ProTool or a JD style bender have no problems for hobbiest use and the usual upgrade is an air over hydro system just so you are not sweating your butt off in the summer.
You Won? I want to win! I was planning on getting the Electric over hydrolic right off the bat because I hate my compressor running all the time. Its inside the shop and just to damn loud. (32gallon Craftsman)

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