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post #1 of 30 Old 02-13-2012, 04:47 PM Thread Starter
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Driveshaft question

Ok, so I'm gonna warn ya... this is probably a stupid question, but I figured I'd ask anyway.

I know I have some driveline vibes up front due to my front uppers needing to be lengthened to tweek the angle. I figured this out the first time I locked the hubs after installing the driveshaft. I didn't run it long, but it was long enough to tell I had considerable vibes by 30mph or so.

Well, today I was crawling around under the heep looking for anything that might hinder my travels over the next 3 days (AL to GA to WV to NJ).

I noticed that my u-joint on the axle side is not sitting completely down in the yoke (Dear God, please tell me I used all the right terms... ).

Anyway, my questions are...

1 - Will it hurt to drive this back to NJ with it like that assuming that I don't need to use 4x4? Heck, if I have to use 4x4, it's gonna be slow moving anyway so I'd probably just pull over for a while since I've got vibes around 30mph.

2 - Is this as simple of a fix as it looks like? Loosen the u-bolts, slide the u-joint over into the notch, and then tighten the u-bolt back up? Seems like a 5 minute fix, but I don't want to start it and realize I didn't think far enough into it.

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Looks like you broke a C clip. If that cap pops off you're screwed.
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#2 if you don't it will swarm. Looks like someone did't tighten it good.

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Is it really as easy a fix as it looks?

Should I just pull it off and worry about it when I get home?


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I would. At home it would be an easy fix. Better safe then sorry.
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Fix it and the vibes will probably go away.

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2) Looks like it just isn't centered? Loosen the bolts, center the joint, tighten back up, and see if you still have vibes.

1) If it is actually bad, you said that you 'locked the hubs'. Does that mean manual hubs? If so, nothing in the front end should be spinning when in 2wd, so no issues with driving with the driveshaft installed.
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Yes its that easy just loosen it up and center the cups in the yoke. There should be a tit on each side of the yoke to keep the cap from coming out.

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Yes its that easy just loosen it up and center the cups in the yoke. There should be a tit on each side of the yoke to keep the cap from coming out.
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2) Looks like it just isn't centered? Loosen the bolts, center the joint, tighten back up, and see if you still have vibes.

1) If it is actually bad, you said that you 'locked the hubs'. Does that mean manual hubs? If so, nothing in the front end should be spinning when in 2wd, so no issues with driving with the driveshaft installed.
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I would. At home it would be an easy fix. Better safe then sorry.
Yes, locking hubs on my front D60.

I'm going to loosen, recenter, and tighten back down tomorrow before I take off. I'll check it when I stop for gas and if it's moved, I'll pull the whole shaft and worry about it when I get home.

I honestly don't think this will fix my vibes. I think it jumped out of place because of the vibes and I apparently didn't tighten it down good enough. I'm just glad I caught it when I did. I can only imagine what would've happened if I hit some snow and dropped it into 4x4 like that.

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There should be a tab on the Yoke that keeps it centered. Check to see if one didn't brake off.


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I'll check it tomorrow, unsub. Going to bed now. Long day ahead of me tomorrow.


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Oh, no... you mean the yoke? haha... I gotta remember those terms!

The side where you can see the ujoint sitting too far out, I saw the tab under the u-joint. It did not break off. I remember seeing the tab on the other side, too, so I think I just need to reseat it and tighten it down.


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Simple fix, loosen recenter between tabs tighten.

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I ended up pulling the shaft (yeah, yeah, no jokes please). One of the "ears" (I think that's the right term) on the u-joint is fubar. I'll have to get a new u-joint when I get home. Hopefully, I don't hit too much snow on the way back.


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I ended up pulling the shaft (yeah, yeah, no jokes please). One of the "ears" (I think that's the right term) on the u-joint is fubar. I'll have to get a new u-joint when I get home. Hopefully, I don't hit too much snow on the way back.
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On a side note-what brand of drive shaft is that?
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It's a JE Reel. I wouldn't blame it too much on the manufacturer. I'm a noob and probably f'd it up when I installed it. No harm, no foul.

Anyone have the part number for the u-joint I need, though?


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You said "one of the tabs is fubar"... are you refering to the 2 tabs on yoke that help center the u join on the yoke, or are you refering to the u joint itself (which doesn't have a tab).

It reads like when installing you crushed the alignment tab on the yoke (the part that is attached to your pinion shaft) because your u joint was not centered. Like everyone said, this will 100% give you vibes (as your entire shaft is now rotating off center).

You may be able to get away with centering your u joint in the yoke and retightneing everything down, tho I would check often to make sure it doesn't shift. Your other choice would be to get a new yoke and just make sure the u joint sits properly within the tabs before you torque down the bolts.

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It's a JE Reel. I wouldn't blame it too much on the manufacturer. I'm a noob and probably f'd it up when I installed it. No harm, no foul.

Anyone have the part number for the u-joint I need, though?
Jeeper JK: Give us a call. Though it looks and sounds like the U-joint wasn't properly seated in the yoke during installation and / or the U-bolts didn't get tightened up, we'll work with you to get you going again. As otehrs have mentioned, make sure the little tabs on outside of the half-moons of the yoke (where the U-joint rests) are not damaged or broken off; if one or the other is gone, the yoke needs to be replaced, too. Just call the shop when you get back to town.

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Jeeper JK: Give us a call. Though it looks and sounds like the U-joint wasn't properly seated in the yoke during installation and / or the U-bolts didn't get tightened up, we'll work with you to get you going again. As otehrs have mentioned, make sure the little tabs on outside of the half-moons of the yoke (where the U-joint rests) are not damaged or broken off; if one or the other is gone, the yoke needs to be replaced, too. Just call the shop when you get back to town.
Thanks. I'm fully confident that I screwed this one up. Jason from Rebel is gonna get me set up with a couple u joints so I can replace this one and have an extra. I wouldn't dream of letting you take care of it. My screw up, I'll take responsibility.


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Jeeper JK: Give us a call. Though it looks and sounds like the U-joint wasn't properly seated in the yoke during installation and / or the U-bolts didn't get tightened up, we'll work with you to get you going again. As otehrs have mentioned, make sure the little tabs on outside of the half-moons of the yoke (where the U-joint rests) are not damaged or broken off; if one or the other is gone, the yoke needs to be replaced, too. Just call the shop when you get back to town.
Class act guys, he looked close to loosing the shaft, guys running big tires lucky he wasn't using 4wd.


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Yeah, unsub, if I'd used 4x4 one more time, I probably would've lost that ujoint completely and damaged the driveshaft, too. Good thing I found it when I did and, believe me, it won't be forgotten that Reel offered to help.


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Yeah, unsub, if I'd used 4x4 one more time, I probably would've lost that ujoint completely and damaged the driveshaft, too. Good thing I found it when I did and, believe me, it won't be forgotten that Reel offered to help.
Lucky front shafts have a habbet of ripping the front of the tcase off when they go. Knowing you you'd just put an atlas in


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Lucky front shafts have a habbet of ripping the front of the tcase off when they go. Knowing you you'd just put an atlas in
Yeah, in hindsight, I should've left it on...


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