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Can the clockspring be fixed DIY or is that something that needs to be left to the dealer?


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im not sure you can fix it, but replacing it it's a no brainer, the hardest part is to take the air bag out, by releasing the 3 clips that hold the ab in to the steering wheel, after that, it's really simple, just dont forget to count the turns and leave it in the middle.

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Yeah, that's what I meant.... replace.

Any tips to keep the airbag from blowing up in my face? That'll definitely leave a mark and I'd rather not experience it. Is it even possible for it to activate with the Jeep off and sitting still?


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i believe fixing the clockspring involves dismantling the entire steering column. might take a lot of time and effort

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Doesn't look too tough on this youtube video...

Chrysler Van Clock Spring - YouTube

I just might give it a shot.

SSrubi, what do you mean by "count the turns and leave it in the middle"? I don't see anything like that going on in the video. Should be relatively the same given that it's a Chrysler minivan and we're basically driving a Chrysler minivan anyway... haha...


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Check with the dealer. I had an 07 that I just got a recall on. Too bad I don't have it anymore.


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Just had mine done at the dealer for free. It is not a recall but an extention of the warranty. I was stoked because it has been bad for a while and I just got the letter.

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To avoid accidental discharge, disconnect the battery completely. :Beer:

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Yeah, that's what I meant.... replace.

Any tips to keep the airbag from blowing up in my face? That'll definitely leave a mark and I'd rather not experience it. Is it even possible for it to activate with the Jeep off and sitting still?
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I figured that out after watching that video.

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Just had mine done at the dealer for free. It is not a recall but an extention of the warranty. I was stoked because it has been bad for a while and I just got the letter.
You really think the dealer is gonna fix my clock spring free when I roll in on 41.5" tires?

Heck, even Lucas Jeep back in Jersey wouldn't do that. I will probably just order it from MoparPartsAmerica.com when I get back home and fix it.

For now, I'll live with it. It's only causing the airbag light on the dash and my horn is not working (it beeps when I lock the doors with the key fob, but won't if I try to activate it at the steering wheel). I'm guessing replacing the ABS sensor fixed my cruise control issue 'cause it's working fine now!


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I figured that out after watching that video.



You really think the dealer is gonna fix my clock spring free when I roll in on 41.5" tires?

Heck, even Lucas Jeep back in Jersey wouldn't do that. I will probably just order it from MoparPartsAmerica.com when I get back home and fix it.

For now, I'll live with it. It's only causing the airbag light on the dash and my horn is not working (it beeps when I lock the doors with the key fob, but won't if I try to activate it at the steering wheel). I'm guessing replacing the ABS sensor fixed my cruise control issue 'cause it's working fine now!
School me on the clockspring. Was it's failure because of your mods? Just curious.

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tire size, lift, hemi swap, nothing should really mess with your clockspring warranty.

Remember mods only void the warranty on parts they can affect.

So unless you used drywall screws to bolt something to your column or something retarded like that, the extended warranty on the clock spring *should* cover you.

of course some dealers are gonna fight more stuff than others


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Doesn't it fuck the clockspring up if you turn the wheel too far with the drag link disco'd? I'm not 100% sure, but I'm thinking this had to have happened while we were doing the lift.

I did not have the airbag light before the lift and come to think of it, it was while I was turning the wheel back and forth to get steering fluid into the line that the horn started sounding continuously and I disco'd it. After I hooked it back up, it would not work when pressed on the steering wheel.

I'm going with the clockspring and I'm willing to bet that we (I) fucked it up when we were (I was) working on it.


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you need a short flathead scredriver to release the ab, there are 3 holes in the back of the ab, have to push in the ab then release the clip. (try using a flashlight on the biggest hole of the 3 of them to take a look in to the clip, so you'll know how to release it, it's easy if you do it right) . relase the clip all the way and move on to the next, and so forth.

then unplug ab, and harness, release steering wheel bolt, sometimes it takes more than a few pulls to get the steering wheel out.

take the screws out from the turn signals, and wipers, and replace clockspring,

turn it all the way to the right slowly, and count two complete turns to the left, that will be the middle, put a piece of masking tape so it wont move, and assemble back together, make sure DO NOT over tight the bolt from the steering wheel. dont worry , it will never come off.

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They just sent out an unlimited mile warranty on all clock springs


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It would not hurt to ask the dealer about it. Let them tell you it's not covered due to something you did.

If you end up replacing it yourself, AZ or Advance will "loan" you the steering wheel puller. Videoing the disassembly will help you remember how to reassemble the column.

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a dealer here fixed the clockspring on a friend of mines heavily modded jeep, not modded as heavy as yours but he's rolling 5" lift and 37's. they extendd the clockspring warranty to ( I Think ) 120,000 miles. I would give it a try IMO

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Might give it a try when I get home.

I'm curious about SSRubi's method of turning the clockspring all the way to the right, then back 2 full turns. Is that in the FSM? Have you (SSRubi) actually done it that way or see it done? Just wondering since it wasn't done in the video I linked. I realize it wasn't a JK in the video, but figured I'd ask just in case I do attempt this on my own.

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Doesn't it fuck the clockspring up if you turn the wheel too far with the drag link disco'd? I'm not 100% sure, but I'm thinking this had to have happened while we were doing the lift.

I did not have the airbag light before the lift and come to think of it, it was while I was turning the wheel back and forth to get steering fluid into the line that the horn started sounding continuously and I disco'd it. After I hooked it back up, it would not work when pressed on the steering wheel.

I'm going with the clockspring and I'm willing to bet that we (I) fucked it up when we were (I was) working on it.
I really doubt this broke your clockspring.


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i've done it myself a couple of times, if you turn it all the way to the left, it's about 2 1/4 turns, because it does not wind in the middle, but if you have any doubts about this method, try winding it up to either side, and then count the turns counterwise, divide it by half, and that's the center. it only turns 4 1/4.

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if you decide to do it yourself, it will take you anywhere from 25-40 minutes, depending how long you take to take the ab out, it is not science, everything falls in to place, you cannot piece it back together wrong, except the turns in the clockspring and the overtighten the steering bolt, if you remember those 2 things and have knowledge of how to use a screwdriver, and a ratchet, you'll do fine, if you have a steering wheel puller, that would rock, but sometimes you don't even need it, a good hard straight pull will do the trick. (if in doubt, try it)

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oh, i forgot to mention, there are 3 torx screws that hold the column covers that need to be removed, along with the covers, then tilt the steering wheel down, for better access to release the ab.

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You really think the dealer is gonna fix my clock spring free when I roll in on 41.5" tires?

Heck, even Lucas Jeep back in Jersey wouldn't do that. I will probably just order it from MoparPartsAmerica.com when I get back home and fix it.

For now, I'll live with it. It's only causing the airbag light on the dash and my horn is not working (it beeps when I lock the doors with the key fob, but won't if I try to activate it at the steering wheel). I'm guessing replacing the ABS sensor fixed my cruise control issue 'cause it's working fine now!
Yes, they will I rolled in on 37s and 106,000 MI, tires are not a cause of a failed clock spring but if you are gonna deal with do like I did and take your dash apart and put a screw in that dinger. I love not hearing it at all.

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