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post #1 of 18 Old 01-27-2012, 06:17 PM Thread Starter
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Ok I've got a 2012 4dr and just had a rubicon express 4.5 lift short arm installed I went with 37 tires and dual steering stabilizers couldn't be happier with the look and the ride is bad ass went with fox resi all around. Here's my question. Should it feel like it has alot of slop in the steering and it's hard as hell to keep on the road wants to go all over the place. I figured it would drive like stock if not better. I've had several lifted trucks but no jeeps and have never had this issue. So any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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post #2 of 18 Old 01-27-2012, 06:33 PM
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Are the drag link and track bar parallel or close to it? I dont know if RE come with a drag link flip or not Got a alignment done? Toe set properly?

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Sounds like it needs aligned


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Man idk I'm not sure they said it was aligned but Im not sure i know I paid good money for this setup and have it installed and now I'm afraid to drive it. Im pissed Here's some pics.

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Probably improper caster or toe is where I'd start

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So I'm not crazy? It should steer good with no issues?
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Another thing looking online at pics with dual setups they all are reverse of what mine is. What I'm saying is the shocks are turned the opposite way fixed end in the center. Could this be an issue?
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Why do you have a dual Fox SS set up? I thought fox made them for a single set up. On a single it would be switched.

I would take both ss off and see how it drives.

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Why do you have a dual Fox SS set up? I thought fox made them for a single set up. On a single it would be switched.

I would take both ss off and see how it drives.
Ok I'll check this
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with short arms and 4.5" your caster is probably waaaaayy off.

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with short arms and 4.5" your caster is probably waaaaayy off.
for those who don't have understanding proper caster angle makes the steering self center. Too much caster and steering is difficult. Too little and it's unstable (your case?).
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$1 says caster
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How in the fuck can you steer it with two of those on? Fuck I just have one and it feels heavy as hell, I could only imagine two. Damn.

Again, caster for the win. Also the flipped drag link set up was a huge improvement.

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How in the fuck can you steer it with two of those on? Fuck I just have one and it feels heavy as hell, I could only imagine two. Damn.

Again, caster for the win. Also the flipped drag link set up was a huge improvement.
I can't. That's what I'm saying it's hard as hell and all over the rd
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I can't. That's what I'm saying it's hard as hell and all over the rd
To sum up what people are telling you in this thread. Since it seems like your responses are scattered around and you are just reading while not trying to fix or try to analyze the problem.
  • 1) There is absolutely no need for two steering stabilizers. You should remove one, however it is not attributing to your "wander" problem, it is contributing to your "firm" steering.

    2) Caster is where the weight is located over the front wheels. Improper caster can cause hard steering and excessive road wander. This needs to be checked.

    3) Improper toe specification can cause excessive road wander as well. This needs to be checked.

    4) The orientation of the steering stabilizers (flipped) has no bearing on your steering.


**If the shop recommended you needed two steering stabilizers and "performed your alignment". You need to:
  • 1) Not go there again

    2) Definitely have it realigned

    3) Find a new shop

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To sum up what people are telling you in this thread. Since it seems like your responses are scattered around and you are just reading while not trying to fix or try to analyze the problem.
  • 1) There is absolutely no need for two steering stabilizers. You should remove one, however it is not attributing to your "wander" problem, it is contributing to your "firm" steering.

    2) Caster is where the weight is located over the front wheels. Improper caster can cause hard steering and excessive road wander. This needs to be checked.

    3) Improper toe specification can cause excessive road wander as well. This needs to be checked.

    4) The orientation of the steering stabilizers (flipped) has no bearing on your steering.


**If the shop recommended you needed two steering stabilizers and "performed your alignment". You need to:
  • 1) Not go there again

    2) Definitely have it realigned

    3) Find a new shop
Thank you. I'm going back Monday and I will let them know and if it isn't fixed I will find another shop. Thanks.
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To sum up what people are telling you in this thread. Since it seems like your responses are scattered around and you are just reading while not trying to fix or try to analyze the problem.
  • 1) There is absolutely no need for two steering stabilizers. You should remove one, however it is not attributing to your "wander" problem, it is contributing to your "firm" steering.

    2) Caster is where the weight is located over the front wheels. Improper caster can cause hard steering and excessive road wander. This needs to be checked.

    3) Improper toe specification can cause excessive road wander as well. This needs to be checked.

    4) The orientation of the steering stabilizers (flipped) has no bearing on your steering.


**If the shop recommended you needed two steering stabilizers and "performed your alignment". You need to:
  • 1) Not go there again

    2) Definitely have it realigned

    3) Find a new shop
great summarization and information right here.

and ill add this about steering stabilizers. a properly setup suspension doesnt even NEED 1.

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great summarization and information right here.

and ill add this about steering stabilizers. a properly setup suspension doesnt even NEED 1.
Great thanks. I think they were just trying to add shot to make money
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