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I've been thinking alot about replacing the front seats in my Jeep. While they're firm, they are not very supportive... and over the long haul, they are down right uncomfortable. we've made two trips to the NYC area and many other 4+ hour trips. Its uncomfortable for the wife, and i'm feeling it too....

while i've like the looks of the Mastercraft seats for a long time, the Corbeau Baja RS also appeals to me... but as i pick through the Quadratec catalog, I see the "new" XRS seat with memory foam built into a suspension seat. (hmmm) At $300 a piece, I'm thinking strongly of going with the Baja RS, but at a $600 cost, another $100 for the pair isnt that far off.

But heres my question.
The Smittybuilt XRC line of seats is similar in design as the Baja RS and the Mastercraft seat. is anyone running this in a JK? it looks identical to the mastercraft seat..... so is this just a contract seat by the same maker? even the upholstery is the same!


I'm looking for some experience based feedback here. Anyone that has installed the seats in a JK, any fitment issues... and most importantly, COMFORT. Corbeau lists seat sizing with a waist size reference in the "performance" seats. i'm wondering if there is anyone who has gotten "the smaller seat", going outside the waist size recommendation as well.

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I just looked them up on 4wheelparts.com, you can get 2 seats and a rear cover for $540. I paid substantially more than that for the Mastercraft set.

Usually one gets what you pay for and smittybuilt is not known for high-end items. The Mastercraft seats are ~$500 each for a standard color plus whatever options you want on top of that and are of race safety quality.

I would dare to say they are not the same maker....

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Take a look at the Mastercraft Baja's we just put in Black Diamond. Fit, finish, QUALITY, and comfort we have not found in seats that cost less.

https://jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51265
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Can't speak for the Baja

style seats but.......................

I did a racing style replacement bucket (heated) which I love.

I used an aftermarket seat mounting bracket attached to the floor in the factory location.

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Think of seats as a safety item. Do not buy seats based on looks alone. If the new seats are constructed more cheaply than the factory seats, you gained nothing and put yourself at risk. The smittybuilt and Corbeau recliners are not built as well as the factory seats; factory seats have better fasteners, and use steel where Corbeau and SB use plastic. The foam and bolsters of the SB and Corbeau seats have about half the life of your factory seats.

Do a search on Corbeau recliners on this site, pirate, and jeepforum and you will see how shitty and unsafe they are. Corbeau keeps claiming to have fixed the problem, but new seats seem to continue to have them. The non reclining Corbeaus seem to be fine.

Moral of the story, you get what you pay for with seats and its easy to get seats that are less safe than what you already have.

Look at Mastercraft, Twisted Stitch, and PRP.
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Great thread! I've been thinking about replacing mine also, so this will be good info to have!
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Take a look at the Mastercraft Baja's we just put in Black Diamond. Fit, finish, QUALITY, and comfort we have not found in seats that cost less.

https://jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51265
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This build looks awesome! I do have a question though and it seems fitting for this thread:

Do the Mastercraft seats sit much lower than the stock seats? I've got the RH harness bars front and rear with the OEM seats. On my JK the front seat harnesses have to travel UP a bit to come over the front seat backs.



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They don't sit lower, the back is in a different configuration though. The appearance is they are lower but your "butt comfy" factor isn't compromised at all.
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This build looks awesome! I do have a question though and it seems fitting for this thread:

Do the Mastercraft seats sit much lower than the stock seats? I've got the RH harness bars front and rear with the OEM seats. On my JK the front seat harnesses have to travel UP a bit to come over the front seat backs.

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Yip.. don't skimp on one of the biggest safety items in your junk..

Don't know if you looked into them but another option is Twisted Stitch..






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I just had some TwistedStitch's put into my HundyBlazer, you can't go wrong with the quality.

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is there a vendor on here to talk to about the twisted stitch seats? thats an option i was wanting to go, but when i went on their web site they only seats they show is for atvs and utv's. i emailed a guy who "sells" them 3 months ago and have never heard back from him. guess he didn't want my money.

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is there a vendor on here to talk to about the twisted stitch seats? thats an option i was wanting to go, but when i went on their web site they only seats they show is for atvs and utv's. i emailed a guy who "sells" them 3 months ago and have never heard back from him. guess he didn't want my money.
I've sold/installed their seats. Loved them. They aren't listed on my site only because there are only so many hours in the day.

Give me a call when you can at 866-900-8841 and I'll get you set up.

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Think of seats as a safety item. Do not buy seats based on looks alone. If the new seats are constructed more cheaply than the factory seats, you gained nothing and put yourself at risk. The smittybuilt and Corbeau recliners are not built as well as the factory seats; factory seats have better fasteners, and use steel where Corbeau and SB use plastic. The foam and bolsters of the SB and Corbeau seats have about half the life of your factory seats.

Do a search on Corbeau recliners on this site, pirate, and jeepforum and you will see how shitty and unsafe they are. Corbeau keeps claiming to have fixed the problem, but new seats seem to continue to have them. The non reclining Corbeaus seem to be fine.

Moral of the story, you get what you pay for with seats and its easy to get seats that are less safe than what you already have.


Look at Mastercraft, Twisted Stitch, and PRP.

I agree......

I used the Corbeau CR1 which I love........ But you have to make sure you lock the seat the seat into position. I have a history with Corbeau and believe in their product. Just my opinion.


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I have a history with Corbeau too:

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[QUOTE=desert dog;768195]I have a history with Corbeau too:
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Are other makers adjustable seats of better umm safety? I don't mind getting fixed seats, but if I could get adjustable and be w/in 10% as safe of a fixed back seat then I'd prefer to do that.

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Are other makers adjustable seats of better umm safety? I don't mind getting fixed seats, but if I could get adjustable and be w/in 10% as safe of a fixed back seat then I'd prefer to do that.
Mastercraft Baja RS has an adjustable option and are known for their safety.

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^^^^^^ check out mastercraft Baja RS seats. Pretty much top of the line in racing seats. IMO

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"poly" sells TS seats and master craft.
I took a gander at what seats are being used in baja 1K trucks and figures if it's good enough for them it's going to keep my occupants comfy and safe around town too.

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I heard good things about PRP and I remember seeing that Kevin of Method motorsports has some deals on them (https://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34599)
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Yeah I can see in that situation how dangerous it could be.

I run a harness bar behind the seat so the recline is not an issue in my rig. As far as the forward motion created by the recline failure,,,,,,, again in my rig you have a five point harness....... NOT A FACTORY SEAT BELT !!! So your not moving anywhere !!!!!

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Yeah I can see in that situation how dangerous it could be. I run a harness bar behind the seat so the recline is not an issue in my rig. As far as the forward motion created by the recline failure,,,,,,, again in my rig you have a five point harness....... NOT A FACTORY SEAT BELT !!! So your not moving anywhere !!!!!
I run both 5 point harnesses and the factory seat belts, which is very easy to do and free. Harnesses suck balls for driving around town and messing around on easy trails, so I tuck the harness out of the way and use the factory belts. Its not flopping on the trail that scares me with the Corbeau recliners, its a collision at highway speeds. The cheap parts in their reclining mechanism is not confidence inspiring, especially when 2 seats break at the same time. I don't want to drive everywhere with my harness on because my seats might break. The factory seats are way beefier and crash tested. The Corbeaus do look very nice (better than the MC IMO), but I would not put them in my jeep if you gave them to me for free.

The Mastercraft Baja RS seats are a significant step up in quality and the price isn't too bad. Ive also been very impressed with the quality of TS and PRP.

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I have corbeau cr1 seats, I just ordered mastercraft baja rs for the front and I'll move the corbeaus to the rear
The corbeaus are barely a year old and have broken down considerable also the rear seat back has some
Movement in it.
Mastercraft is way better quality, and a suspension seat as well

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I put the mastercraft baja seats in my jeep and they are much more comfortable than stock and the recline mechanism feels hell for stout. The only issue I have with them is some minor contact with the factory center console that makes it stiff to slide them.
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I put the mastercraft baja seats in my jeep and they are much more comfortable than stock and the recline mechanism feels hell for stout. The only issue I have with them is some minor contact with the factory center console that makes it stiff to slide them.
exactly what i was after. thank you!


forgot about the twisted stitch seats (website leaves alot to be desired...)... the PRP i just dont find appealing.

Looks are important. if i'm throwing down $700-$1000 on anything it should at least look the part as well as function, but that isnt the only consideration. that was the point of the thread, and you guys are hitting the points i was after. i recall someone posting a pic on facbook having Corbeau seats in their JK and another person made some negative comments... but i had no idea why.

recline is a necessity as is comfort... this Jeep does see some long road trips on occasion.


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Two (three) questions.
thats the Vortex seat, right? regular, XL or XLR?
are you gonna be at Jeep Beach, and can i try em out?


guys, thanks for bringing the twisted stitch seats up... forgot all about em. gonna try and make some comparison to the Bajas.






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another thought.
if any of you got a seat with adj lumbar support, was there any interference with either the center console or B-pillar depending on which side you got it? checked out Mastercraft's site. theirs uses a knob (mechanical) and you can have the knob on either side of the seat. Twisted Stitch shows inflatable, so that should not be any issue i suppose...


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My vote is for the Baja RS seats

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