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Replacing the front driveshaft

Well it finally happened. Tore the boot on my front driveshaft offroading and it of course happened on the very last trail of the day. Looking for a replacement and have a couple questions. Running a 2.5 TF spring lift on a 2 door rubi.

-Do I need to replace upper and or lower control arms with the new shaft to address pinion angles? From what I have read it sounds like I don't and the angle my driveshaft is at now looks decent.

-What driveshaft would you go with? Obviously Tom Woods is ranked pretty high but I have read a lot of good things about tatton and that price is certainly more appealing.

-1310 or 1350 for a mild-moderate offroad vehicle?

-How long will the front ds last without a boot on it?

Thanks for the help!
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i tore my boot off the front over a year ago...no issues so far...
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You tore the boot on the slip splines or the boot on the CV Rzeppa joint?
I ran a stock front DS for over 2 years without a slip spline boot. No problems at all until the CV boot tore and the joint went to crap.
I don't do mud though, so the time line could be different for you.
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On the slip splines, the large black boot in the middle not at the t-case end where the actual cv joint is. I'm assuming this is what most people tear correct?
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You tore the boot on the slip splines or the boot on the CV Rzeppa joint?
I ran a stock front DS for over 2 years without a slip spline boot. No problems at all until the CV boot tore and the joint went to crap.
I don't do mud though, so the time line could be different for you.
same exact thing. I actually cut OFF the factory slip slpine boots as I tore them both up and they caused all sorts of odd noise at speed

The front is now dead, rear was bent and am running a temp rear that Adrenaline Off-road swapped me. I just ordered front and rear Tatton 1310's. I see no benefit for 1350's
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I have torn mine off 4 times. I had it replaced under warranty 3 times. I have just given up on it now. When it goes I will put some after market shafts in. I just don't like going to the dealership after every trail.


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-Do I need to replace upper and or lower control arms with the new shaft to address pinion angles? From what I have read it sounds like I don't and the angle my driveshaft is at now looks decent.
With stock shafts, you want the pinion and tcase output to be roughly parallel. For double cardan shafts, you want the pinion to be pointed up at the tcase output. Up front, there is a trade-off between caster and pinion angles, so you need to experiment a little to find an angle that works for you.
Front lowers and rear uppers are the ones to start with.
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I sell a ton of Tatton's Drivelines and I would recommend waiting until you absolutely need to replace the shaft to dish out $400 on a new one.

If it's the front, and it goes, you can always pull it and run around while you wait on the new one to come in.

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I think a pair of shafts through tat ton were close to 700 bucks when we bought nicks.... That's by memory... Maybe they were more

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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I think a pair of shafts through tat ton were close to 700 bucks when we bought nicks.... That's by memory... Maybe they were more
$385 per shaft, delivered from us.

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$385 per shaft, delivered from us.

Marcus
Ya that was probably before shipping... You guys have a good price on that shipped.

31 jeeps in... still have issues
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Ya that was probably before shipping... You guys have a good price on that shipped.
I payed 775$ last year shipped from tatton
Marcus's deal is better by 5$

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Well it finally happened. Tore the boot on my front driveshaft offroading and it of course happened on the very last trail of the day. Looking for a replacement and have a couple questions. Running a 2.5 TF spring lift on a 2 door rubi.

-Do I need to replace upper and or lower control arms with the new shaft to address pinion angles? From what I have read it sounds like I don't and the angle my driveshaft is at now looks decent.

-What driveshaft would you go with? Obviously Tom Woods is ranked pretty high but I have read a lot of good things about tatton and that price is certainly more appealing.

-1310 or 1350 for a mild-moderate offroad vehicle?

-How long will the front ds last without a boot on it?

Thanks for the help!
Wait until it shits the bed before you buy a new one or just can't stand not having a new DS... 2.5 shouldn't be a huge issue even on a 2dr but check the pinion angle and see if it seems extreme... you will be able to tell when you look at it.. 1310 should be enough for mild-moderate and is a bit easier on the wallet - you can beat on a 1350 more than a 1310 (obviously)... so if you are worried about it just spend the extra money on the 1350s.

My front DS lasted for 2+ years without the boot - which was ripped off on the first trail of my first wheeling trip. I replaced both when I had some extra money. Went 1310s and my goal is to beat on'em until they break. I saved the OEM shafts to use at trail spares in case someone else breaks.

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I saved the OEM shafts to use at trail spares in case someone else breaks.

where are you keeping those ginormous things? like in rig trail spare or back at home/camp trail spare?
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Haha.. no shit. Back at camp is where they stay, along with another front/rear axle shaft. I keep one rear shaft and a long side front in the Jeep when wheelin'

I really just need to sell the stocker DS..... instead of lugging them around.
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Thanks for all the help guys. Sounds like I'll keep wheeling on this ds until it goes for good, then I'll replace it.

Marcus, I will certainly be ordering from you since I have heard only good things plus you're in my hometown!

There is a jeep dealership that is fairly friendly with the jeep club up here so who knows I may just be able to get it fixed under warranty, doubtful but it can't hurt to try!
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