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all at once or bit by bit?

Hey guys!

Whelp..turns out i finally bent my d30. (yup, she is smiling at me pretty bad). Anyway, made the jump to the PR44/60 combo...
currently running 2.5 AEV lift with the geo brackets...but, I will also be upgrading all 8 control arms to MC as well as new 2.5 MC coils...
The axles will take a few months to get here (shipping to Siberia takes a while), but i already have the control arms/coils.

My ultimate question is this: should i wait and do the whole install together? would it be better to install control arms and coils now?
is there any advantages to doing it either way?

thanks in advance all!
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If you're going to take "ol' Smiley" wheeling before the axles arrive, installing your new suspension could give you an appreciation for any differences those pieces make. It would also allow you to get your control arms and miscellaneous bullshit dialed in so the axle swap is just that - just the axle swap.

If that doesn't appeal to you, doing it all at once would be less work than doing a lot of it twice.

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I would wait till the new axles are in. The reason being is your going to have to set it up all over again.

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thanks guys! the idea of doing the work twice isn't exactly appealing...but i get the point.

I guess the plan at this point is to wait....but i can see myself just staring at it one day and saying "[email protected] it...doing this NOW"

thanks again guys!
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Hey guys!

Whelp..turns out i finally bent my d30. (yup, she is smiling at me pretty bad). Anyway, made the jump to the PR44/60 combo...
currently running 2.5 AEV lift with the geo brackets...but, I will also be upgrading all 8 control arms to MC as well as new 2.5 MC coils...
The axles will take a few months to get here (shipping to Siberia takes a while), but i already have the control arms/coils.

My ultimate question is this: should i wait and do the whole install together? would it be better to install control arms and coils now?
is there any advantages to doing it either way?

thanks in advance all!



hey, I'm sorry you went thru that rather costly experience,OP , but sounds like it has yielded you strengthening the parts further which is never a bad thing!

favor , if I may ask ;

we so seldom get to see an actual bent housing or "C" or tube or knuckle that I am sure I speak for everybody when I politely ask if you could post a link to an image or two of your prior D30 smiling at you & your wallet ?

I am not being sarcastic; we hear of bent housings but never get to see nearly as many . Thought you might share a link to an image you've got in the cloud someplace....




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Hahaha. No worries! I knew you guys would ask (lurking on this forum since i got the jeep, just rarely chime in since most of you guys have WAY more expertise than me)...and have zero issues sharing. So, took a few pics with my phone of the tire smiling. And, since I drive it every day/have it in my garage, I would love to take more photos or do anything requested (put a level on it or something of that nature) to help.

Can take close up photos or whatever you guys would like to see.

(I am on my phone at the moment so bear with me on the video)

I DO have a video of when it happened...or one of the moments i THINK it happened...and if i can figure out how to upload that, i will share... was in the middle east and dune bashing. Dont remember if it was during a regular desert crossing or the "Wahiba Challenge".
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I say bit-by-bit.

The second time around, it's not like you're trying to determine the set-up for everything. Drop axles/install axles. Perhaps it's not spot-on, but you're not out of the ball park.

While you're at it, re-pack the joints, check other previously installed components for proper fastener torque, possible interference/clearance issues that may have exposed themselves, etc.

And what if the new axles don't show when expected? Do you really want a few thousand dollars in parts laying around collecting dust for another few months before you get to enjoy them?
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Hey guys!

Whelp..turns out i finally bent my d30. (yup, she is smiling at me pretty bad). Anyway, made the jump to the PR44/60 combo...
currently running 2.5 AEV lift with the geo brackets...but, I will also be upgrading all 8 control arms to MC as well as new 2.5 MC coils...
The axles will take a few months to get here (shipping to Siberia takes a while), but i already have the control arms/coils.

My ultimate question is this: should i wait and do the whole install together? would it be better to install control arms and coils now?
is there any advantages to doing it either way?

thanks in advance all!
Yes wait. Unless you want to dial everything in more than once. Depending on the whether you chose the Unlimited version of the axle or not, the caster is going to be way different between the old and the new. Also, you want to balance the pinion angle with the caster. More waiting less wrenching.

The flip side to this is: you can get the coils broke in and have a more accurate application setup once the axles go in.

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thanks for the images ,OP!
sorry that happened but sounds as tho you were having fun on the dunes at the time.
I see the smile...


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