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post #1 of 17 Old 07-15-2019, 01:19 AM Thread Starter
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I went wheeling on the weekend and now my winch just makes a clicking sound everytime I press the buttons on the remote. Just one single click for every press. It spooled for about 1 second then just a click when the button is pressed. I didn't go through any deep water or anything. Just tiny puddles and lots of dust. The jeep, engine bay and interior are covered in dried dirt and dust. My under hood light stopped working also. Anyone know what this could be?

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post #2 of 17 Old 07-15-2019, 03:20 AM
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Winch issue could be the solenoid pack. Do you have a multimeter that you could use for a little troubleshooting? Also, what winch do you have?
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Yup I have one. I just have to open the winch up. Its a champion 10,000 lb steel cable winch
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There's your problem, Chinese winch. Pull the cover off of tje solenoid pack and check for loose connections. Does it spool out?

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It does spool out. I contacted them because I can't figure out how to open it up. They said they will help trouble shoot. Wevwill see how thst goes.
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Some percussive maintenance will sometimes temporarily resolve an issue with a relay contactor not making full contact. Give it the old tappy-tap-tap, maybe while holding the button down.

You could also try spraying some contact cleaner in there... if you can get it in there.

Otherwise... It's likely a loose connection as previously mentioned or one of the relays. I recently went through this with an older winch. Replaced the old mechanical relays with a solid state unit.

Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Astra-Depot-C...gateway&sr=8-9
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Some percussive maintenance will sometimes temporarily resolve an issue with a relay contactor not making full contact. Give it the old tappy-tap-tap, maybe while holding the button down.

You could also try spraying some contact cleaner in there... if you can get it in there.

Otherwise... It's likely a loose connection as previously mentioned or one of the relays. I recently went through this with an older winch. Replaced the old mechanical relays with a solid state unit.

Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Astra-Depot-C...gateway&sr=8-9


Interesting. Thanks for that suggestion. If only I could get into it. I contacted Champion, they said to send pics of the wich so they could suggest trouble shooting. I sent pics snd havent heard back. How do you get in? I really would prefer not to have to take it off the bumper if its possible. It's a pain in the ass.
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The relays should be under the center cover with the "Champion" lettering. From what I can see it looks like the top set of fasteners on each side may hold the center cover in place.

I'd start by disconnecting the battery then, removing those fasteners to see if the cover will come off.

It might look something like this:


Each one of those is a relay. In this example they are single pole, so it takes 4 of them to do all of the switching to do power in and power out.

Yours *might* have just 2 relays, in which case they would be dual pole.

Either way all of that mechanical switching mess could be replaced with a solid state unit like this:


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Is that top center section plastic or metal? If plastic, it probably is a snap-fit. If metal, it's probably retained by the top 2 bolts on each side.

If that top center cover doesn't un-snap and lift off, I'd remove the top 2 bolts on each side of the top piece and see if the center section lifts off. If that doesn't do it, I'd remove the bottom 2 nuts/bolts on each side and take off the whole top bridge.

Hose the bolts down with Kroil, PB Blaster, WD-40, or similar ahead of time so the bolts are less likely to seize and snap upon removal.

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I'm gonna bench test the motor and see if that's working or not. I tried removing the bolts on the side snd the thing won't open up still. The control box is plastic.
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Ok so I did the bench test and got no motor activation. I then tried the remote again and the motor spooled for half a second and that was it, just more single clicks when I pressed the buttons.

I'm waiting to hear back from Champion about how to open up the winch. I removed the bolts on the sides of tge control box and it won't open.
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Ok so I did the bench test and got no motor activation. I then tried the remote again and the motor spooled for half a second and that was it, just more single clicks when I pressed the buttons.

I'm waiting to hear back from Champion about how to open up the winch. I removed the bolts on the sides of tge control box and it won't open.
am I the only one that sees not-just-a slight gap in the name-plate/electronics cover stamped with a "CHAMPION" brand that sorta appears as if it is smirk of a slight-opening in it that screams to me "this is probably where you open me" shield-cover visible , plus I see the three screws or hex-heads or bolts rusting on the front lower lip there that you'd likely need to get undone for electronics access. Have ya looked-up under this part where you'd lift to get under there,OP?





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Yup, I've been coresponding with Champion. They said to do the bench test then report the results back then they will instruct as to how to open it up and what to test next. I never noticed those bolts under there. Coukd likely be it. Thanks.
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am I the only one that sees not-just-a slight gap in the name-plate/electronics cover stamped with a "CHAMPION" brand that sorta appears as if it is smirk of a slight-opening in it that screams to me "this is probably where you open me" shield-cover visible , plus I see the three screws or hex-heads or bolts rusting on the front lower lip there that you'd likely need to get undone for electronics access. Have ya looked-up under this part where you'd lift to get under there,OP?





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Holy crap, j3ff3ry! I know I need new glasses, but I am fookin' impressed!

I thought ( ) I looked closely at OPs pics, but you get the Scooby Doo award

Props, dude - consider my investigatory ass kicked this time around, oh super sleuth

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So, Champion tells me the motor is gone and a new one will cost $160 plus tax and shipping. They suggested that it might be more cost effective to purchase a new one.
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So, Champion tells me the motor is gone and a new one will cost $160 plus tax and shipping. They suggested that it might be more cost effective to purchase a new one.
I think I'd wait til next holiday or sale & just snag myself a nice entry level quality winch if I can were OP


yeah, @ExWrench , I'm just OCD about rust & can spot it anywhere,heh.
plus, only so many ways that could be accessed & none struck me as very high tech , pardon me , OP ; I've never heard of the Champion brand , frankly.




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&#x1f44d;&#x1f44d;&#x1f44d; thanks for all the suggestions
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