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Thoughts on my build going forward

I am curious as to others thoughts on moving forward with my build 13 JKU. I could just leave well enough alone and not spend any money. But its a jeep, LOL! I am just curious to hear some thoughts on what you all would do give my current set up and the options I list. Looking for legitimately constructive and informative comments please.

Current Set up
  • 2013 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (4 dr) 55,000 miles
  • Automatic Transmission
  • Rock Krawler 3.5" lift with all 8 control arms, springs, track bars, etc.
  • JRi Shocks
  • 37" Nitto Trail Grapplers on 17" Spyderlock Wheels
  • Currie Ent. 60 VXR axles (front & rear)
  • 4:88 gears with ARB lockers (front & rear)
  • 1350 Drive Shafts (front & rear)
  • PSC Big Bore Hydro Assist steering
  • sPod switch system
  • ARB Twin Air Compressor mounted under the hood on a M.O.R.E. mount on the driver side
  • Front JCR Offroad Bumper with Engo 10K winch
  • Rear JCR Offroad Bumper with tire carrier
  • Ace Engineering Rock Rails with Jeep Rubi Rails
  • As you can see, it's a fairly heavy rig and will most likely add skids too

Option #1
Go with an LS swap Jeep seems to run ok with the 4:88 gearing and my set up. But my rig is heavy and the extra horse power would be nice. May not really be an option as still recovering from the axle swap and 37s. But still gonna explore it.

Option #2
Upgrade suspension and go with coil overs (taller lift). Reason I am throwing this option in the mix is with installing the Currie VXR60s make it pretty tight under my rig with the current RK 3.5 lift. Tight meaning clearances with up travel. So I would be looking to go a little taller.

Option #3
Skip both options #1 and #2 and do various smaller upgrades such as interior items, roll cage, maybe swap around bumpers/armor, replace Engo with with something else like a Warn, etc. etc. Ideas are welcome.

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Daily driver?
Yes, daily driver. So it see a lot of pavement time. Daily drive consists of city and some interstate. Not many distance trips as with a family of 5 we normally take the wife's suburban if the trip is any real distance/time.

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I would go with option 1. That would be most bang for the buck, since you could enjoy it everyday.

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I would go with option 1. That would be most bang for the buck, since you could enjoy it everyday.
Ha Ha HA That is my reasoning as well. But that's a big "buck" though. Probably looking at about $23K from my research and that's if everything goes just right. Would have to hire the work out as that would be above my head and way more than I would be willing to try and bite off. Plus having the time. Wife would have a fit. LOL!

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Ok could you just go with taller springs? and then do some of option 3?

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Ok could you just go with taller springs? and then do some of option 3?
Yes, that is an option as well. That's why I posted this...to get ideas. Thanks.

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I don't think you'll find anybody who says "Man I regret that LS Swap!"
Yea, I don't figure anybody has LOL

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What are your goals regarding the jeep?

Do you want to be able to do harder trails?

Do you want it to have more power on the street?

Do you want to run 40s?

Without some idea of where you are trying to get to, its hard to say "do this".
I guess my biggest deal is having the power to go along with the 37's and Currie 60s. I don't think I'll go 40s unless I do some more upgrades to suspension or install flat fenders and such.

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I thought the 3.6 was a great motor with all that power vs the 3.8.
I turn 40's, yes its slow but it does the job. I would like to try some 37-38" tires just so see how better it would run up my highway.
pay off your mortgage.

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Ha Ha HA That is my reasoning as well. But that's a big "buck" though. Probably looking at about $23K from my research and that's if everything goes just right. Would have to hire the work out as that would be above my head and way more than I would be willing to try and bite off. Plus having the time. Wife would have a fit. LOL!
Check with RPMExtreme and look at the RePower setups. I got a 6.0l/6l80 combo fully setup and wired dropped on a pallet in my driveway ready to install with everything I needed for $17,500. This made it very simple and took 4 days from start to finish.
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Here is a timelapse of the 4 day install with body on in a basic garage setup. It's not as hard as you think.

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Here is a timelapse of the 4 day install with body on in a basic garage setup. It's not as hard as you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8zBKd-R-0o&t
Yea, I've emailed with Jon at RPMExtreme some as well as some others that use Motech or either one depending upon the build. Seems like both have great kits. I don't think I would trust myself to do the install by myself, plus would have to borrow/buy a few things to be able to do it.

Local guy here has done several swaps and says he uses Motech.

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Yea, I've emailed with Jon at RPMExtreme some as well as some others that use Motech or either one depending upon the build. Seems like both have great kits. I don't think I would trust myself to do the install by myself, plus would have to borrow/buy a few things to be able to do it.

Local guy here has done several swaps and says he uses Motech.
If you've done all the other work on your Jeep, you have the skill to do an LS swap.

thedirtman's right though, pay off your mortgage first.

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I think you can get a 6.0L installed, turn-key from Motech for around 18-19k.
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thedirtman's right though, pay off your mortgage first.
Only 20 more years until I get to do an LS swap! Time flies, it'll feel like tomorrow.
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I'd break so many driveline components if I had that kind of power in my '11 Unlimited,lol.

Impressive upgrade @Riptide9


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If you can get a kit out of Motech.....He has outsourced his kit business to John Shoe, but have not seen pricing or specifics on actual kits.
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Yea, I've emailed with Jon at RPMExtreme some as well as some others that use Motech or either one depending upon the build. Seems like both have great kits. I don't think I would trust myself to do the install by myself, plus would have to borrow/buy a few things to be able to do it.

Local guy here has done several swaps and says he uses Motech.

John is just a great guy, he will answer your call anytime day or night, he's called me back at 10:00 at night before.


He's one of those guys who gives a shit about his work and how happy you are with your $$ spent.


Just stating that FWIW!

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John is a great guy and puts together a great setup!

@MAG00 , my vote still lies with the LS! I also think doing the CO setup we talked about would be nice and give you a good ride... but we can always go with a taller coil as well. Keep in mind that if we do the LS, it will add some more weight and we will need to keep that in mind if we are swapping coils.

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