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post #1 of 8 Old 09-26-2018, 09:24 PM Thread Starter
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What tuner do you use?
Do you like it?
Is it worth the cost?
What makes your different than others?
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post #2 of 8 Old 09-26-2018, 09:56 PM
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I'm running a Superchips Flashcal. Not necessarily a tuner, but changes tire size and gear ratio which is all I think you need. The "tuning" on a JK doesn't really do much.
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I've run Superchips Flashpaq on my '11 for over 5 years and while not at all mind-blowing, there are some settings which it can set that I would not want to not have ( tire size, gear ratio change, fuel type tune, DRL settings, horn chirp, & trans-shift points & a few others) however, I loath Superchips business tactics and upgrade trickery; when you tune a vehicle, you are then dependent upon that device for the driveability of your truck/jeep/car and then become a minion of the tuner manufacturer's software or firmware whims or mistakes or fancies.


I had grown accustomed to using the tuner's diagnostic feature to attain the transmissions temps and a few other settings, but when the model became older and they updated it and the product line to higher end, Trail Dashes , they issued an update to the software which REMOVED features like the diagnostics without notifying the customers and suddenly i had to scramble to install a trans tempt gauge in the Jeep or find an alternative software that could read the PID from across CAN in this last year of the 3.8l Jeep . That made me very displeased with SC.

So, if you go with them, I recommend once you get it setup how you are happy with the performance , to save and backup that tune and settings then disallow or no longer upgrade to newer softwares or firmwares that can be masked as feature removals to force you into purchasing newer model hardware of the same type from the vendor. This is a known tactic from mobile phones to video game systems but for automotive related tuners, I feel that is very shady.



Fortunately, the mobile app called TorquePro was able to read those temps just fine but it is the principal .



I will use tuners again but I will not buy a Superchips. The ProCal can do many of the things the SC can for less money and no nasty update trickerry. The SC is much more performance oriented , tho. If that can even be a factor to consider for a 3.8l v6 eqipped jeep, lol








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post #4 of 8 Old 09-27-2018, 06:58 AM
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I use Diablosport. I hate them but I had no other choice at the time for custom tuning.

They have very poor QA and have told me they use their customers as their testers.

I would probably go with HP Tuners if I had to do it all over again now.


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I use Diablosport. I hate them but I had no other choice at the time for custom tuning.

They have very poor QA and have told me they use their customers as their testers.

I would probably go with HP Tuners if I had to do it all over again now.
That's rough, I've never trusted any of these tuning companies except SC really.

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post #6 of 8 Old 09-27-2018, 12:28 PM
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HPTuners is the only way to have actual tuning ability instead of flashing a pre-packaged generic tune file like Superchips or Diablo. Besides cost the drawback is there is a very sharp learning curve and unlike the safety of the generic tunes you could completely destroy you engine and trans if you don't know what you're doing.

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I’ve had a Superchips on a number of vehicles and always had good luck.


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I have the superchips tuner. I bought it used off craigslist for $100 and I have been completely happy with the generic tunes and calibrations. It is an older one and takes forever to load anything but for me it's a set it and forget it deal. The tire size change took a bit of trial and error to get correct.

The difference in performance is NOT earth shattering but was noticeable enough even on the 87 tune to make it feel like 100 bucks well spent. This is on the 3.8 engine when just having a passenger can change how it feels so it may be a different story with the 3.6.
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